On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:16:55AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Well, it’s an experiment, but I’m still quite hesitant to switch. It > > really shuts down fast (1 to 2 seconds or so), but I don’t see much > > improvement in booting time (still around 40 seconds until KDM is > > finished). I like the small stuff around it though, for instance > > timedatectl is neat and that there is no consolekit thread spam in htop. > > Even considering that you need to input the LUKS password, 40 seconds > is too much. You can use systemd-analyze and systemd-analyze blame > after a fresh boot to see what is taking most of the boot time.
I stopped the timer during password entry. systemd-analyze said (IIRC, netbook is off ATM) a little more than 20 seconds altogether. But as I mentioned it’s a slow machine. From the kind of noises it made during boot, I guess that the HDD is the bottleneck. The time from the initial blank X screen to KDM alone is more than 10 seconds. Perhaps there is still stuff starting in the BG. > > I also see now why some people rant about it, e.g. that it has an own > > logging daemon (“one big block of everything”) which uses a binary data > > format. OTOH, logging becomes very handy with it in that you can see all > > messages associated with a particular service. Systemdadm is a start, > > but impractical on a netbook screen. > > Don't forget journalctl -b -p err and journalctl -b -p warning. Hugh > time savings. I’m just so used to tail -f /var/log/messages, and it’s a hard fact of reality that switching to something new/else/different always takes personal effort. > > I was hoping I could have openrc and systemd in parallel on the system > > (so I don’t have to maintain two systems, especially on a slow netbook), > > but b/c I removed consolekit altogether, a lot of stuff doesn’t work > > anymore if I try booting with openrc. > > > > Perhaps someone can give me a hint about the following: > > - I’m missing openrc’s feature of using the menu key to switch between > > the last two TTYs, that’s very useful. > > I didn't realized it was gone. Well not in openrc, obviously. But it isn’t there in systemd. > However, I don't think is a feature of OpenRC, it's just that OpenRC calls > agetty differently from systemd, I suppose. I didn’t know where to look for that option specifically and thought it was openrc (because I can’t remember any other distro having this, like many other details such as a colourful promt by default). > > - No login prompt on TTY1. > > Sure it is. Perhaps is just garbled? Try to log in and do a reset. I have boot output on TTY1 and logins on TTY2-6., but not on one I tried various keys and conbinations such as Ctrl+C. > > - A resource link on how to set up networking without network manager. I > > always did it the conf.d/net way. > > You can set up the network without networkmanager just fine. I was obviously too lazy yesterday to research it. I poked blindly into the dark by trying the pre-existing wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd services without any custom configuration (with wpa_supplicant.conf being the only real requirement for my network setup), but wpa_supplicant always failed to authenticate, so I gave up for that night. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service. The advantage of being smart is that one can pretend to be stupid. The opposite is far more difficult.
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