On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:19:22 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > Helmut is still using consolekit. Are you still using consolekit? > > > > Yes, it's the default for kdm so it is enabled on both computers. > > I don't think it will be the default for much longer; it's unmaintained > code which sooner or later will start to bitrot. Unless someone steps in > and starts taking care of it.
Quite likely, but for now it is the default and in use on both systems in question. > > > I have no idea if consolekit is relevant here, but Canek has been > > > telling us that consolekit is abandonware and we should stop > > > depending on it. > > > > That's part of the drive to put everything in systemd, which I do not > > use. > > Fact is, nobody is maintaining ck; from its homepage[1]: > > "ConsoleKit is currently not actively maintained. The focus has shifted > to the built-in seat/user/session management of Software/systemd called > systemd-logind!" That's what I was paraphrasing above. I checked the latest status on that page before replying. > That message has been there for months; in general ck kinda still works, > although it never really solved the problem of properly tracking user > sessions, which is why everybody involved with it quickly jumped ship to > logind, where the problem is properly solved. The issue for many is that logind is so closely tied to systemd. > However, as the interfaces in the stack evolves, unmaintained code like > ck will simply stop to work. ConsoleKit uses dbus heavily, and with the > introduction of kdbus[2] and the inevitable changes that will happen to > dbus, combined with nobody taking care of ck, I don't think it will keep > working much longer. That's a reasonable prediction. > > Ubuntu and Debian (now that is seriously discussing which modern init > system to use) have been discussing an alternative, API compatible > implementation of logind, but I don't know if it has got nowhere. I > think that has more future than ck, but again, nobody (AFAIK) has > stepped in and do the heavy coding. Leaving aside my concerns about systemd, I am not happy with the "all eggs in one basket" direction things seem to be taking. Whatever happened to tolls doing one job and doing it well? > Independently, though, I think is safe to say that ConsoleKit is a dead > end. In the future, most probably. but right now it is the preferred option for KDM. -- Neil Bothwick I spilled Spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone.
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