On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:31:50PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > Am 30.07.2014 21:48, schrieb Dale: > > > While to me KDE is bloated, I just try to disable what I can and carry > > on. If my system was limited on resources, then I may use something else. > > and maybe you did exactly the wrong thing. KDE is very modular and > reuses its modules as much as it can. Which also means: memory is only > used once. > > There were once a very good (in my not so humble opinion. It think very > highly of myself) comparism here: > > http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ > (url is dead btw) > > and if you actually use kde apps in kde - memory consumption is lower > than in either gnome or 'leightweight' solutions like xfce or > windowmaker+stuff. > > http://web.archive.org/web/20071229030604/http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
The problem with KDE apps is that they're imitating what MS did with Internet Explorer. They pointed to the itsy-bitsy-teeny-weeny little "ie.exe" that you could delete if you felt like doing so. They deliberately obfuscated that it was merely a front end to a ton of system libraries that you could not remove. Back when xpdf was being deprecated, various replacement options were suggested. I chose mupdf rather than the KDE app "okular". Here's why. After multiple attempts at "emerge -pv okular", I found I had to add at least the following to package.use to get it to work... dev-libs/libattica qt4 media-libs/phonon vlc media-video/vlc dbus xcb -ffmpeg dev-qt/qtcore qt3support dev-qt/qtdeclarative accessibility qt3support dev-qt/qtgui accessibility qt3support dev-qt/qtopengl qt3support dev-qt/qt3support accessibility dev-qt/qtsql qt3support sqlite dev-qt/qtsvg accessibility sys-libs/ncurses unicode Seems that if I want to emerge and use KDE's "pdf reader", I need... phonon vlc (or gstreamer) libmpeg libmad net-dns/libidn dev-qt/qtwebkit ...***FOR A STINKING PDF READER***. Here's the "emerge -pv okular" output with USE flag listings edited out... [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv okular | sed " s/USE.*$//" These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies .... done! [ebuild R ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:5 [ebuild N ] net-dns/libidn-1.28 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-env-4.12.5:4/4.12 [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libpcre-8.35:3 [ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-qtgraphicssystem-1.1.1 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.5-r2:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtscript-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r3:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtsql-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qt3support-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtsvg-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qttest-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/designer-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtopengl-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtxmlpatterns-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] app-crypt/qca-2.0.3:2 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtdeclarative-4.8.5:4 [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.2-r1 [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmpeg2-0.5.1-r2 [ebuild N ] media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b-r7 [ebuild N ] media-video/vlc-2.1.2:0/5-7 [ebuild N ] dev-util/automoc-0.9.88 9 kB [ebuild N ] kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.12.5:4/4.12 [ebuild N ] media-libs/qimageblitz-0.0.6-r1 [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libattica-0.4.2 [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.2 [ebuild N ] app-misc/strigi-0.7.8 [ebuild N ] media-libs/phonon-4.6.0-r1 [ebuild N ] media-libs/phonon-vlc-0.6.2 [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.12.5-r1:4/4.12 [ebuild N ] kde-base/katepart-4.12.5:4/4.12 [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkexiv2-4.12.5:4/4.12 [ebuild N ] kde-base/okular-4.12.5-r1:4/4.12 Total: 35 packages (34 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 309,990 kB -- Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications