Am 17.09.2014 um 18:06 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> This is highly off-topic, and systemd-related, so if you don't want
> your breakfast with a healthy amount of flames, skip it.
> 
> iTWire posted an interview with Linus Torvalds[1], where the Big
> Penguin himself gave a succinct and pretty fair opinion on systemd.
> The gist of it can be resumed in two lines:
> 
> "I don't personally mind systemd, and in fact my main desktop and
> laptop both run it."
> 
> I post it here because several times in the last discussions about
> systemd, there was people asking what opinion Linus had about systemd.
> I personally don't think Linus particular opinion matters at all in
> this particular issue; in general people who likes systemd will
> continue to like it, and people who despises it will continue to do
> so, for any good, bad, real or imaginary reason. However, I *really*
> like several things Linus says in the interview; some juicy bits:
> 
> • "So I think many of the "original ideals" of UNIX are these days
> more of a mindset issue than necessarily reflecting reality of the
> situation."
> 
> • "There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX "do one
> thing and do it well" model where many workflows can be done as a
> pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face
> it, it's not how complex systems really work, and it's not how major
> applications have been working or been designed for a long time. It's
> a useful simplification, and it's still true at *some* level, but I
> think it's also clear that it doesn't really describe most of
> reality."
> 
> • "...systemd is in no way the piece that breaks with old UNIX legacy."
> 
> • " I'm still old-fashioned enough that I like my log-files in text,
> not binary, so I think sometimes systemd hasn't necessarily had the
> best of taste, but hey, details..[.]"
> 
> • (About the "single-point-of-failure" "argument") "I think people are
> digging for excuses. I mean, if that is a reason to not use a piece of
> software, then you shouldn't use the kernel either."
> 
> • "And there's a classic term for it in the BSD camps: "bikeshed
> painting", which is very much about how random people can feel like
> they have the ability to discuss superficial issues, because everybody
> feels that they can give an opinion on the color choice. So issues
> that are superficial get a lot more noise. Then when it comes to
> actual hard and deep technical decisions, people (sometimes) realise
> that they just don't know enough, and they won't give that the same
> kind of mouth-time."
> 
> It's an interesting read; I highly recommend it.
> 
> [1] 
> http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/65402-torvalds-says-he-has-no-strong-opinions-on-systemd

thanks for the pointer ;-)

S


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