On 09/21/2014 07:23 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:46 AM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>>> • "There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX "do one >>>>> thing and do it well" model where many workflows can be done as a >>>>> pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face >>>>> it, it's not how complex systems really work, and it's not how major >>>>> applications have been working or been designed for a long time. It's >>>>> a useful simplification, and it's still true at *some* level, but I >>>>> think it's also clear that it doesn't really describe most of >>>>> reality." >>>>> >>>> >>>> He doesn't make an actual argument why useful abstraction cannot be done >>>> in complex systems. >>> >>> He doesn't need to; >> >> Sure he does. > > No, he does not, because the link I posted was not an argument, was an > interview and he was asked for his opinion, and in no moment was he > asked to justify his opinion. > > You, on the other hand, seem to be arguing. I don't know exactly with > whom, because surely is not with me. >
Then please just refrain from answering if you don't understand how my point matters in terms of systemd development, thanks.