On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 01:09:16 PM behrouz khosravi wrote:
> > You need bumblebee. Otherwise it's not possible to use the Nvidia
> > Optimus chip.
> 
> I think that it is possible, or supposed to be possible!
> The gentoo wiki says that Nvidia drivers are now supporting the optimus, so
> it is called "native optimus support"
> 
> > > I just waned to use optimus without that, but it seem the it is not
> > > easy!
> > 
> > It's not possible, because the Nvidia Optimus chip isn't a full featured
> > graphics card, and doesn't write directly to the screen. Joost already
> > explained it pretty well.
> > 
> > Exactly, that is why the Nvidia driver is using the xrandr for offloading
> 
> the tasks.

That convoluted method (xrandr......) is what bumblebee does in the 
background. Along with enabling/disabling the nvidia chip.

--
Joost

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