On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:14:19 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 06:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >>
> >> Copyright law makes everything illegal. Downloading the source and
> >> reading it is illegal. Why wouldn't it be illegal? The copyright holders
> >> have made it clear that you have no license to do so.
> >>
> > 
> > If I distribute a binary kernel module, I'm not copying anything that
> > I didn't write.  I'm the copyright holder of the binary kernel module.
> > 
> 
> Anything you can do without the kernel source code is legal, sure. But
> we're talking about...
> 
> 1. Downloading the kernel source (making a copy of) it.
> 2. Patching it.
> 3. Linking it with closed source code.
> 4. Distributing the result.
> 
> (If that's not what you have in mind, maybe we are at cross purposes).
> 
> Step #1 is illegal unless you have a licence. The burden of proof is on
> you to show that you were allowed to do it.

You have the license, the GPL allows you to do steps 1-3. Step 4 is only 
illegal if it's a derived work, so the question, as Rich stated, is whether or 
nor is a derived work.

The law is not clear about that. But how can it not be a derived work if it 
doesn't work without it?

> > 
> > That is why I want you to actually look up the letter of the law,
> > because if the specific action being done isn't in the letter of the
> > law, then those claiming copyright have an uphill battle ahead of
> > them.
> > 
> 
> I'm not going to go look up whatever statute says "you can't make a copy
> of copyrighted stuff" =P
> 
> 

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez

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