This is a new installation: 
mouse and keyboard don't respond at all
dmesg sees them and in the Xorg.0.log
libinput sees them both but it keeps saying
libinput: Logitech G703 (my mouse) Failed to create a device for 
/dev/input/event23
and before that it says xf85OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/event23 
Permission denied.
:((( my kernel has everything and i have the drivers all installed
im not sure what im missing

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