On Monday 07 November 2005 03:52 pm, Holly Bostick wrote:
> No, no, Jeff, that is apparently where you are wrong:

Heh, I missed this tidbit..

> Jarry schreef:
> > Well, this will be probably criticised, but after every upgrade
> > (independently of what was really updated) I restart sshd, named,
> > sendmail and apache, even with old config-files. I thought that way
> > not only my system is updated, but also new versions of those daemons
> >  are running. Rest (I thought) is not important...
>
> So you see, the mail server, ssh server and web server *are* restarted.
>
> Whether or not they were the services actually updated (or needing
> update), and without regard to
> whether the change required an updated *configuration* file, which--
> since etc-update was not run-- did not take place. But we all know that
> fixing a security hole never has any relationship to the application's
> config files, ever. Don't we? And of course restarting those four
> servers, even with old config files, constitutes a full and complet
> update, patching all relevant security holes covered by the emerge -uDN
> world. *Ob*viously. Because *ob*viously, emerge -uDNworld updates to the
> version of whatever containing the patch for the hole. No matter what
> your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is set to, no matter what USE flags are enabled.
>
> I mean, *really*, Jeff. What *are* you thinking? Why on earth should we
> need to pay attention to any of that stuff? Don't you know Gentoo
> manages your server(s) for you? (Wonder why it takes two days to a week
> to install, if it does all this automatic management so well?!)

Heh, well, I stand corrected. I am sure we should all be doing this, because 
its obviously the right thing to do..

Well, i have been bitten on upgrades I was watching, he will be bit 
eventually, then he will come crying here.

Jff

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