On 2024-07-29, Eli Schwartz <eschwa...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> [...] I (for one) would appreciate some sort of notice when such an >> unbundling happens so that I don't waste time trying to track down >> why emerge suddenly wants to install a bunch of new packages. I >> can't really come up with a good mechanism for that other than news >> items. > > Well, it is there in the `git log` of the package. And at > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-python/pip/changelog > > Commits on 2024-06-23 > > dev-python/pip: Unbundle dependencies
Right, but that's only useful after you track down the trigger for the new packages. What would be nice is avoiding that "tracking down" effort. [I know, I should just relax, hit 'Y', and trust that emerge and the devs know what they're doing.] >> OK, now I'm genuinely curious: what does pip need to do with markdown >> and RTF? My first guess was that its man pages aren't written in nroff >> any more and somehow markdown was being used. [I already had at least >> one markdown implementation installed, but pip apparently demands a >> different one.] But there is no man page for pip. There are a bunch of >> documents in /usr/share/doc/pip-<ver>, but they're all reStructured Text. >> >> Oh well, I guess I should be thankful it didn't force LaTeX and pandoc >> installs. > > Python software loves to depend on python software and hates to depend > on anything that isn't written in python, so I think you're pretty safe > there. :) Good point. :) > As for why it needs to format markdown -- build dependencies of > python software often do, since they want to render the darned stuff > into the https://pypi.org display page for that software Oh. Is that display page (in html?) written into a log somewhere or shown during the build? > and the one and only way to do so is to render it into the metadata > files which get installed at runtime -- and which are also directly > displayed on https://pypi.org > > I don't understand it myself, either. You certainly understand more of it than I do. > In this case it's actually a bit worse because pip internally uses, and > usually bundles a code copy, of https://pypi.org/project/rich/ > > "rich" can do a lot of things, including take markdown and print it with > fancy formatting and colors to your terminal emulator. pip isn't using > most of the features of rich, but it is *using* rich at all, and > therefore markdown ends up as a recursive dependency. > ... > > aside: there are pip manpages, funny you should mention that. When installed on Gentoo using dev-python/pip? > I could totally add another bdepend on sphinx for this! But I would have > to package some things first. :( No thanks, sphinx would pull in 10 more packages. :) If I need pip documentation, I can google for it or look at the rst.bz2 files install in /usr/share/doc... Thanks for tolerating my whinging. -- Grant
