thak you all. now I really understand what about PAM and LDAP.


On 1/13/06, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
> 2006/1/13, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> >
> > > thanks. I believe I am starting to understand this.
> > >
> > > I was seeing that ldap can authenticate in a lot of types, like ,
> > > databases, files, and PAM do some things like that too.... or am I
> > > wrong ?
> > >
> > as far as I know you are wrong.  ldap is an authentication
> > mechanism.  it stores usernames, passwords, and much more.
> >
>
>  LDAP is *not* an authentication mechanism. LDAP stands for Lightweight
> Directory Access Protocol, so LDAP is a protocol you use to access data
> stored in a structured way, called directory. An LDAP directory is a
> directory that may be accessed using LDAP. An LDAP server is a server that
> serves its data using LDAP. LDAP servers are used for a lot of things, and
> two of them may be single sign on or centralized authentication (they are
> different although related things).
> You are correct...I was attempting to highlight the distinction between a
> security storage mechanism (which is what I should have said) and a
> mechanism that does the actual authentication.
>
>  To access data in a directory you may have to authenticate to access the
> data. This authentication can be done in several ways, and one of them is
> called simple bind: in this case you provide a path to locate an object in
> the directory and a password and the server "compares" the password provided
> with the password stored in the specified object. IIRC the PAM-LDAP module
> uses simple bind to authenticate an user trying to gain access to the
> system. This is, the PAM module takes the provided user and password and
> tries to authenticate itself against the LDAP server using the simple bind
> mechanism, translating the user into a path to locate the object
> representing that user in the directory.
>
>  BIG WARNING: Don't do this unless you're using simple bind over SSL
> protected connections unless you want your passwords to travel (almost?) as
> clear text through the network.
>
> This MIGHT also not be a security risk if the ldap server and the service
> attempting to authenticate are on the same server.  I usually did simple
> bind on the ldap server itself, and tls/ssl from all the other servers.
>  HTH
>  Jose
>
>


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