On 2/12/06, Franta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 14:04 -0200, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > On 2/4/06, Franta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As I said. It wont be SicroMoft. I'm still wondering. At this time of > > > writing I reduced the possibilities to Slackware or LFS. > > > I know, I'll need to do some work to get things running but if they are > > > running I know they ARE running. Nobody will "upgrade" my system to make > > > them stop working and thus make me to explore why and how to fix this. > > > > > > Don't advice me to use Windoooze. I'm a UNIX admin the last 20 years. It > > > would be the horror to become accustomed to this poorly program. Well, > > > program - I don't say this to be an OS. > > > > > > > I got a Pentium 100 running for about 6 months now, since that time I > > did not touch it, its more stable than our proxy server *lol* > > > > If you want the bleeding edge, all updates, all the latest versions > > and changes, you agree that at some point you'll have problems, that's > > no reason for flamming the distro and if you feel like it, DON'T!! > > Change the distro, simple as that... C'mon, I am a newbie compared to > > you. I'm running Linux for about 5 years, Gentoo for about an year, > > and still, got my udev working after some reading (the docs Philip > > mentioned)... You should be ashamed of your first post... > > > > > > > > > > > BTW: I'm a UNIX admin the last 20 years. So don't > > > > > > On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 04:11 -1000, Beau E. Cox wrote: > > > > On Saturday 04 February 2006 04:02 am, Franta wrote: > > > > > Due to the issues I hit (nearly) every time I do an upgrade. > > > > > > > > > > I did the upograde today too. There was one on udev. I think devices > > > > > don't coming up (Sound, USB) could belong to this kind of problems. > > > > > > > > > > Well. nothing changes. > > > > > > > > > > I've tried it half an hour ago with (a very old) knoppix CD. I have > > > > > USB > > > > > disks, I have sound, I have networking ... > > > > > > > > > > That said (xcuse me, I <<HAVE TO>> say that) Gentoo is far away from a > > > > > distro for usage. > > > > > > > > > > Do not reply to this post - I'll unsubscribe immediatlely after > > > > > posting > > > > > and I'll go to have a lok for another distro which won't force me to > > > > > fdisk for a newly install. Maybe it'll be Slack. > > > > > > > > > > Have fun customizing and repairing your systems. I prefer to work with > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > So OK. Bye. A little work on your part and you could be enjoying and > > > > 'working with' one of the best distros available. Maybe you should pack > > > > it in and just install Windoze... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Aloha => Beau; > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Daniel da Veiga > > Computer Operator - RS - Brazil > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > Version: 3.1 > > GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- > > PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > > Got it. Realizing that I got a new baselayout, that things heavily > changed in udev AND things heavily changed in the kernel as of versoon > 2.6.13 I decided to upgrade the kernel. > > I've chosen 2.6.15 and averything works again (after a ``no | make > oldconfig''). > > I'd assume that the newer baselayout(s) aren't compatible with kernels > older than 2.6.13 anymore. I'll not explore that. Maybe someone knows > that beter than me. > > Right, RTFM will lead to success in every case but it't annoying to do > this again and again and again. > > Right too, I could leave the comp as it is but if I try to install a new > tool (yes I'm still in this phase) I'll have to upgrade anyway. After a > month without internet connection I got about 30 packages to upgrade. > For now I'll upgrade rather often to hold this number low. >
In fact, you don't need to upgrade to install new tools, only if they explicity ASK for an upgrade as a dependency, take as example the gcc version, I lived with it for a few months till I decided to upgrade, and I installed most of the system with all current versions, none asked for a gcc upgrade, or baselayout, or kernel, in fact, my core system tools stayed as installed from the CD for a few months (except for portage and a few dependencies). emerge --sync doesn't mean you have to upgrade world... You can keep the sync and don't change your system... > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
