On Monday 17 April 2006 13:48, James wrote:
> Petr Kocmid <Petr.Kocmid <at> project-bhairava.org> writes:
> > I wander, what's the point of having (noncompilable)
> > dev-embedded/avr-libc in portage when there is no avr-gcc nor
> > avr-binutils?
> No good reason for this....

Well, now I found one: one needs to be a clearvoyant to detect that 
dev-embedded/avr-libc is probably supposed to be used with sys-devel/crossdev 
toolset generator.

However, for now I am quite satisfied better with Ycarus's overlay ebuilds 
from zugaina.org.

> Well, in my experience with Gentoo, what's available in portage, is a
> function of what the 'devs' are interested in. Indeed every packages in
> portage needs an evangelist to keep it current and correctly patched. It
> seems that none of the devs are much interested in firmware, assembler,
> (8-16) bit micro-Controllers and many things related to embedded software
> development. The answer is to find an embedded person that can 'get
> qualified' as a dev thereby supporting the needs of the firmware community,
> in my opinion.
>
> It's a *DAM SHAM*
>
> Micro-Controllers, state machines and minimal executives are the heart of
> where electronics meet computer science.

Verily you hit the Truth! As someone who spent my young age coding on 
mainframes AND building 8-bits, I am quite dissatisfied with fact today's 
young computer specialists either have no [soldering+assembler] skills or 
they can't read in any of prolog/lisp/scheme/haskell, or both. It's really 
causing a major technology slowdown, where are all those servicing robots we 
in 80's were expecting to have in 2000 at our homes? ;-) Sorry everyone for 
shifting off topic.

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Petr
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