Just getting around to reading this 59 post. Thread. Interesting. Thanks!

On 12/18/06, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:54:06 -0800, Grant wrote:

> I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing
> for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users.  More users must mean
> more active developers, and more active developers must mean an
> increased rate of growth for the software.

"must mean"? Why? The only thing more users must mean is more users. If
you maintain the proportion of users-who-would-become-devs to
always-users your point may have some validity, but the ratio always
drops when a distro becomes popular. More users often means more work for
the same number of devs, it can be counter-productive.

This is very true.


> I believe the great benefit of Gentoo is its flexibility, and
> flexibility is like a meta-benefit because it makes possible any other
> benefit.  What do you think makes Ubuntu the distro of the moment?  Is
> it ease-of-use?  If Gentoo focused more on ease-of-use aspects of the
> Ubuntu variety, they would attract more users and thereby increase the
> rate of growth for the software.

Do we really need yet another easy to use distro? There are already more
than enough of those. Gentoo is for those who want maximum control over
their systems and are prepared to make the effort to achieve this. This
is for a different type of user. Turn Gentoo into yet another easy-to-use
distro and those people lose while those wanting ease of use gain very
little.

I agree again. The ONLY problem I'm having with Gentoo is the devs
removing older revs of things from portage. (ati-drivers, MythTV,
etc.)

My older, somewhat specialized  MYthTV frontends are boxes that
require specific kernel+ati-drivers combos to get SVideo to work. I've
found that when I need to upgrade these I find that the version of
ati-drivers that I'm currently using is no longer in portage. I lost
SVideo output on both my boxes for this reason and had to switch to
composite vidio. Bummer.

On those machines I'm seemingly forced to use ati-drivers because the
xorg ATI drivers only support VGA output on my ATI9200/Pundit-R
machines.


I really don't care if Gentoo is considered a minority distro, it is not,
and hopefully never will be, a mass market product.

I'd prefer it did not. I still love Gentoo. It's easily the most
stable distro I've ever run. (RH & Suse here.) The support from the
devs has been second to none.

- Mark



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Neil Bothwick

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