On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:16, Mark Knecht wrote:

> > In cases like that, you use portage overlays. Then the ebuild will
> > always be there until *you* delete it
>
> The problem with this view of overlays has been that I do an eix-sync
> and find that something I'm currently running been removed from
> portage - for whatever reason but mostly it's been security issues or
> the developer not wanting to maintain an old version. At that point
> it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay what I don't have.

no, it is still there. You do have it!
If you have a package installed, its ebuild is safed 
in /var/db/pkg/category/packagename just copy it.

Or you extract it from cvs.

But it is not 'gone'.


> I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the
> web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The
> problem is for a user type like me, and yes, I'm *purely* a user type,
> it's a bit beyond my skillset today to go get it and build the overlay
> myself.

it is not 'somewhere'. It is on the gentoo hp. AND your harddisk.

>
> I've mentioned this in the past but the idea has never gained
> traction. If portage is thinking about removing an ebuild from my
> machine why not just move it to some location on my machine so I've
> always got a copy of what I was running? I could build my overlay from
> what's been moved there. No pain at all. Or I can do what you suggest
> and remove it.

because there is already a copy if you installed it. Also, do you really want 
to never remove an ebuild?`How many millions should be kept? And the 
diskspace?

>
> Anyway, that's my view from user land on this subject. It is only this
> area where Gentoo is a bit of a pain for me. 

because you don't know how to use it and never informed yourself?
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