On Friday 22 December 2006 11:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:16:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I can't believe you are advocating either of those solutions. It > > means you retain 500M worth of tgz'ed portage tree for just in case > > an ebuild leaves the tree. Any custom changes you make to the tree > > are wiped out with the next --sync anyway, so now the user has to > > remember which ones were updated and remember to put them all back. > > Except it's not 500MB, as you'll see by looking at the snapshots > directory on any Gentoo mirror. Of course, the fact that portage > trees for the last couple of weeks are nicely tarred up on all the > Gentoo mirrors makes this process pointless anyway :)
My /usr/portage (without distfiles) is 558,560 blocks of 1k each. I have no idea what it will .tar.gz down to [snip] > > Trust me, the portage devs have already figured all this out and > > overlays are exactly the solution for this. The user already has to > > be online to have updated, so all he needs do is get the desired > > ebuild from cvs, copy it to /usr/local/portage, block updates to > > that package using package.mask and then GO AWAY AND FORGET ALL > > ABOUT IT. No more maintenance, no monthly tars, no vast amounts of > > disk space consumed. it all just works. > > Absolutely. Overlays are there specifically for people who need > something different from the standard portage tree. They are hardly > difficult to use, as long as you know how to use mkdir and cp. When a > user has a system that depends on specific versions of particular > packages, all he has to do is copy them from /usr/portage to the > overlay. You shouldn't even need to mess with CVS, as soon as you > mask all newer versions of a package, you should copy its ebuild > directory to your overlay to keep it safe. Old versions do not > disappear as soon as a newer version comes out, unless the previous > version had a serious security hole. > > mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/category > cp -a /usr/portage/category/package /usr/local/portage/category > > How hard is that? We agree on this. I use overlays extensively: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/portage/virtual/perl-DB_File $ ll /usr/local/portage/ total 21 drwxrwsr-x 27 root portage 880 Dec 10 12:02 ./ drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 312 Sep 24 20:19 ../ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:08 app-admin/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:09 app-editors/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:09 app-laptop/ drwxrwsr-x 5 root portage 120 Dec 9 20:19 app-misc/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Dec 10 11:30 app-text/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:10 dev-db/ drwxrwsr-x 6 root portage 144 Nov 11 18:11 dev-libs/ drwxrwsr-x 4 root portage 96 Nov 11 18:11 dev-util/ drwxrwsr-x 2 root portage 48 Nov 11 18:56 distfiles/ drwxrwsr-x 2 root portage 48 Nov 11 18:56 eclass/ -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 121 Jan 2 2006 header.txt drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:11 mail-client/ drwxrwsr-x 9 root portage 224 Dec 3 10:48 media-gfx/ drwxrwsr-x 8 root portage 200 Dec 9 20:45 media-libs/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Dec 9 20:45 media-sound/ drwxrwsr-x 5 root portage 120 Nov 11 22:26 media-video/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:15 net-im/ drwxrwsr-x 2 root portage 168 Dec 17 19:59 profiles/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:16 sci-calculators/ -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 3666 Jan 2 2006 skel.ChangeLog -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 7189 Sep 22 17:05 skel.ebuild -rw-rw-r-- 1 root portage 789 Jun 8 2004 skel.metadata.xml drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:17 sys-fs/ drwxrwsr-x 3 root portage 72 Nov 11 18:17 x11-apps/ drwxrwsr-x 8 root portage 192 Dec 9 20:37 x11-libs/ drwxrwsr-x 10 root portage 264 Dec 10 12:44 x11-misc/ drwxrwsr-x 25 root portage 712 Dec 9 23:17 x11-plugins/ drwxrwsr-x 4 root portage 104 Nov 11 18:19 x11-terms/ drwxrwsr-x 4 root portage 104 Dec 10 11:36 x11-wm/ alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
