Hi,

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:31:31 -0500
"Timothy A. Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If I cannot trust the tools provided by the OS for finding out whats
> going on-- than what can I trust -- this is intolerable! - if it is
> simply a situation if a non root user not being able to see root
> processes that is one thing, BUT if it really is a situation of the
> tools not giving accurate asessments, that is a whole other situation,
> and one that just cannot be allowed to continue (not that I can do much
> other than scream about it, cuz im not a programmer)

It's mainly not a matter of trust, it's a matter of definitions not
meeting expectations. From an objective POV, the measures shown are
"correct". They are just defined as a more or less complex computation
which isn't exactly what is expected subjectively. People tend to
ignore the definitions and imagine the meaning from the shortened name
of the shown value.

Regarding trusting the OS: Those tools don't come with the kernel. This
is Linux, not the BSDs.

-hwh
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