[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 05:19:09PM +0100, Nelson, David J wrote: > >> Do we want a UNIX standard? A linux standard? A Gentoo standard? A lowest >> common denominator standard? A "what most people prefer" standard? > > I am not talking about which colors to use, which is a personal > preference and can have no standard.
Yes, you are talking about that. > I am talking about the most > basic principles, that all programs behave the same and can be enabled > or disabled in the same way. That's not true. > When gentoo unilaterally decides to do > the opposite, it sticks out like a sore thumb. The proper way to add > color to emerge and its affiliates would have been with an alias, as > it does with ls, not by adding hard coded escape chars to messages, > nor by defaulting to color enabled and adding untested non-functional > control features to disable it. Well, as said before: Chaning to a black/white color theme would probably create quite some uproar now. IMO it's simply too late to change that. BTW: I also don't see a need for changing the default. > There are programming standards too. They include, at the most basic > level, testing new features to make sure they actually work That's what ~x86 (or any other arch) is there for. I guess nobody found a problem, so it made its way to stable tree. > When there's an upgrade to the basic commands, like /bin/ls, it is > only reasonable to assume it is a useful upgrade. In how far is /bin/ls critical for booting the system? And why do you blame other people for your faults? > numbers, simply do not listen to old farts who file bug reports. This Fine. Then don't file a bug report. And also do NOT complain, because not filing a bug report means, that everything is fine. > has been from years of experience with coworkers and with mailing > lists. Are you always like this? Maybe it's the way you approach people, that they do not want to listen to you. > My rant here has been to let off steam. I am not going to waste time > filing a bug report Fine. Then don't complain. Or rather: Complain about the failures YOU do, like not compiling ls statically, like not filing bug reports, etc.pp.. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list