> -----Original Message----- > From: Hemmann, Volker Armin > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:22 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular > dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] > > > On Donnerstag, 17. Mai 2007, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > > > It *P*DEPENDs on them. That's an (strange) kind of special > dependency > > which is pulled in *after* install, instead of *before*. > But still it > > is an dependency. > > > > So, Xserver dependens on driver(s), drivers depend on Xserver. > > Circular dependency. > > > > q.e.d. > > > > aren't you ashamed of yourself, when you post stupid stuff like that?
I haven't done an install of Xorg on Gentoo yet (Right now I am running off of a networkless install, so that doesn't really count). However, when I installed it on an LFS build, on the same machine, I followed their walkthrough, and it installed fine. Mesa would not install without installing Xorg first, and Xorg would not install without knowing where the mesa source code is. Other drivers were left up to the individual to handle, but that was enough for everything to load. So yes, that is a circular dependency, even without Gentoo involved. Not everything is simple, and not everything is cut and dry. Sometimes the problem is not directly the package manager's fault. Give them time to work out all the glitches. 7.2 is fairly new. The chip used by most AMD64 machines, and a handful of Intel machines is not supported by the Vendor with 7.2. All the support at this time has to come from the Community, until updated drivers are released. It was considered a greater miracle when we got the ones we have now. ATI has nice graphics maybe (I still prefer nVidia), but they are not friendly to the Open Source World. They throw us a bone every now and then, and people rejoice because they can use the same hardware more easily between Windows and Linux. End result is that when software upgrades, you either have to stay behind, or hope that the devs find a work around for you (unless you can do the work around yourself). I haven't heard too many complaints out of nVidia users though. :P My lap top is a laptop. It has to use whatever it already has in it. When I build my next desktop however, it will use nVidia. I guess it would probably be a good point to make that issues installing X Almost always come down to video card support. --- Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
