On Samstag, 9. Juni 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Friday 08 June 2007, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user]
> > The slowest boot of all > > times? > > My Gentoo boots more slowly, but that's probably related to the large delay > mounting a 3TiB reiserfs. Ubuntu can also be very quick to boot *if* all > files read on startup fit into system ram throughout the startup sequence, > on my laptop this isn't the case, so my booting is somewhat delayed. I have several boot cds. And none of them booted as slow as kubuntu 7.04. yeah, reiserfs mounts slowly with really big drives - wasn't there a patch added recently to speed it up? > > > A braindead installer? > > How exactly is it braindead? like 'there is a freshly formated partition, but you have to format it again, because me, the mighty installer says so'? > > > Yes, there is something to learn from the ubuntus. Like: don't make > > their mistakes. > > Their "mistakes" made them the most popular linux distribution in a > incredibly small amount of time. Their "mistakes" continue to drive user > and developers toward the project in flocks. Their "mistakes" lead to > Dell shipping home systems with Ubuntu pre-installed. nope, what made them the 'most popular distribution' was the fact that they were hyped even before they released the first version. There have been other easy-to-use distos before and after ubuntu - and I am sure most of them would overtake ubuntu, if they would be hyped the same way. > > I love Gentoo. I love Debian. I still think Ubuntu does some things > better and some things worse. On my laptop, I'd prefer not to configure > anything -- and Ubuntu provides a usable system with no hassles. Servers > @ work -- Debian. Desktop @ home -- Gentoo. I don't think I'd change any > of them. > I don't love debian - it is just a distribution - and I am annoyed by hype. Any kind of hype. I remember very well the hype around Mandrake (I got almost insane, when I tried it. Lots and lots of sugarly cute graphics and colours and no obvious way to turn it off...), I have seen the smaller hype around lindows, I luckily joined gentoo before the hype and I have seen ubuntu beeing hyped and reported as the 'bestest' distribution of all time, before they even released anything. > > Or: there is a difference between userfriendly and made > > for idiots. > > Ubuntu being neither. ;) from my POV (you are free to see it differently) ubuntu is not userfriendly, it is idiot friendly. Some people might think, that I am an idiot, so I should shut up and be happy, but for me, ubuntu sucks. Everybody is entitled to have an opinion. I don't like ubuntu. If you like it, good for you. I won't stop you using it or belittle you for that. Everybody uses the distro that fits his needs - that is the great thing about choice. But for me, *buntu does not fit, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
