On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Paul Hartman
<paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wolfgang Liebich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:35:11AM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Wolfgang Liebich
>>>>>> <wolfgang.lieb...@siemens.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Furthermore yesterday I had a total lockup when I came to work at the
>>>>>>> morning --- could not login at kdm, kdm would ignore all keyboard
>>>>>>> input etc. I had to do a hard restart with the "Magic SysRQ" key
>>>>>>> (remount ro, hard reboot).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have evdev installed? Without it, you probably won't have any
>>>>>> keyboard or mouse. Recent xorg made dramatic changes to the way
>>>>>> hardware is detected/configured by using HAL and evdev. xorg.conf is
>>>>>> basically unused now when it comes to configuring hardware. I don't
>>>>>> even have keyboard or mouse, or video modelines or anything like that
>>>>>> in mine. Search the list archives or the gentoo web forums, there are
>>>>>> many many people who had the same issues (assuming it's the cause of
>>>>>> yours).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Evdev is installed, but I configured the kbd driver (I have a MS
>>>>> Natural Keyboard, btw --- what's the best driver for that keyboard?).
>>>>> I still have an xorg.conf (and I'm not very inclined to change it as
>>>>> long as it works :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore -- after the reboot everything worked again as before. It
>>>>> seems to have been some fluke, but I want to know where it comes from.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Wolfgang
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Someone else like me.  I still have my xorg.conf and want to keep it
>>>> too.  I don't have evdev installed but from the way it sounds, me and
>>>> you may have to change in the future, maybe near future.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sort of wondering what pulls in evdev anyway?  I got a fully running
>>>> KDE and this is my new install.  Nothing pulled it in here.  I may be
>>>> missing a USE flag or something.
>>>>
>>>> Let's hope this works for a while longer yet.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You need "evdev" in your INPUT_DEVICES variable (mine lives in
>>> make.conf). In my case I have:
>>>
>>> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse joystick evdev"
>>>
>>> and portage automagically built those packages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So if evdev failed for some reason, it would fall back to the keyboard
>> and mouse drivers you think?  That I would be willing to try if that is
>> the case.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>
> I don't know, for me it simply works as intended so... maybe I'll try
> to remove the keyboard and mouse and see what happens  :) but in my
> case my xorg.conf is virtually empty aside from some fonts and nvidia
> card options. My display and input devices "just work" without being
> specified in xorg.conf with drivers, modelines or any of that stuff. I
> changed monitors yesterday and simply killed X and it restarted in the
> optimal resolution for the new monitor. I've plugged different
> mouse/keyboard and it just works automatically.
>
> The HAL policies in /etc/hal/fdi/policy contain the same exact
> settings as xorg.conf only formatted a little differently... you can
> give device-specific custom settings if you need and I think
> everything you have done in xorg.conf can be done the new way.
>

I should say they CAN contain the same exact settings. It is up to you
to put them there :)

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