Is there a link to current language at the General Assembly? The link
below is an LC/LP reference to last year's UNGA language.

Thanks!

Marian

On Oct 3, 9:47 am, Dan Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> You are clearly against the idea of OIF, duly noted.  Can we move
> along now?
>
> This is a simple FYI.  It is happening right now.  I think people
> should know.  We tried to keep it factual and to the point.  I
> understand that you disagree on the level of scientific background
> work done by the SBSTTA.  Yes, I did not cut and paste the entire IOC
> document here, but having reread what I posted I see nothing to amend.
>
> And, frankly none of what is happening at the UN has to do with
> commercialization.  There is a real move to restrict even simple
> research-- a point of view that you seem to resonate with.
>
> Dan
>
> On Oct 2, 10:28 pm, "jim thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> > Your briefing instructions below (to whom exactly?) are misleading and
> > partial in several places. I encourage you to ammend it more truthfully.
>
> > Firstly, you claim that the CBD decision on ocean fertilization  was
> > "Adopted last spring with little or no advance policy work or input from the
> > scientific community". This is patently untrue. As you know the CBD has a
> > body that provides scientific and technical advice - SBSTTA (the subsidiary
> > body on scientific, technical and technological advice). This body discussed
> > ocean fertilization at both SBSTTA 12 in Paris in Summer 2007 and at SBSTTA
> > 13 in Rome February 2008 and it was this scientific and technical body that
> > drafted language proposing a moratorium. In both SBSTTA's the delegates
> >  included national experts on marine biodiversity and climate policy, some
> > intimately  familiar with the ocean fertilization topic and involved with
> > teh LC/LP process. This was also the case at COP9 in Bonn. They also heard
> > from scientists and had available the statements and decisions from the
> > LC/LP. The key difference between the two fora is that decisions at CBD are
> > made by a wider constituency on a wider mandate to protect biodiversity and
> > ensure its equitable use unlike the London Convention which is more
> >  narrowly framed as 'anti- pollution' forum. The CBD was able to also
> > consider other perspectives beyond just scientific and technical views. For
> > example they heard from indigenous and fisherfolk representatives on this
> > matter as well as civil society and legal experts. Many of these wider
> > groups are not admitted to the LC/LP negotiations
>
> > Secondly you state that "The Convention on Biological Diversity also
> > acknowledges the authority of the LC/LP on this issue". This isn't true.
> >  The text of the decision from the CBD merely "Notes" the work of the London
> > Convention,  "welcomes" the decision regarding ocean fertilization and
> > enacts further decisions "Bearing in mind" the ongoing scientific and legal
> > analysis occurring under the auspices of the London Convention. All of that
> > language is respectful of the discussions of the LC/LP but none of that
> > language priviliges the LC/LP nor indicate that the LC/LP carries any more
> > authority than the CBD. There were attempts at COP9 to introduce language
> > that would subordinate the CBD to LC/LP on this matter and that was
> > correctly resisted by states as inappropriate. The CBD is a more authorative
> > body with a far wider membership than the LC/LP (only 5 states are not
> > members of CBD) and with a wider remit.
>
> > Finally I note that that the decision of the CBD on this matter is only
> > partially quoted below. Conveniently you, your hired lobbyist or the
> > oceanographic commission's ad hoc group (i'm not sure which) have omitted
> > the section of the decision regarding commercialisation and sale of carbon
> > credits. This was the part of the decision that  differentiated what is
> > reasonable and meaningful independent risk research from activities  carried
> > out the interests of private commercial ventures with a profit-making
> > motive. The CBD delegates clearly felt that such commercial entities may
> > have reason to skimp on the science or skew so-called research to get a
> > better financial return for their well heeled investors. In the interests of
> > precaution they advocated a clear separation of science and the market on
> > this matter - echoing the sentiment widely expressed in the scientific
> > community. Here is the text in its entirety including the prohibition on
> > commercially motivated ocean fertilization  activities:
>
> > "Bearing in mind the ongoing scientific and legal analysis occurring under
> > the auspices of
> > the London Convention (1972) and the 1996 London Protocol, requests Parties
> > and urges other Governments, in accordance with the precautionary approach,
> > to ensure that ocean fertilization activities do not take place until there
> > is an adequate scientific basis on which to justify such activities,
> > including assessing associated risks, and a global, transparent and
> > effective control and regulatory mechanism is in place for these activities;
> > with the exception of small scale scientific research studies within
> > coastal waters.  Such studies should only be authorized if justified by the
> > need to gather specific scientific data, and should also be subject to a
> > thorough prior assessment of the potential impacts of the research
> > studies on the marine environment, and be strictly controlled, and not be
> > used for generating and selling carbon offsets or any other commercial
> > purposes; "
>
> > Best
>
> > Jim Thomas
> > ETC Group
>
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dan Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Ocean Fertilization policy on stage at the United Nations General
> > > Assembly
>
> > > Issue: Negative language on ocean fertilization potentially being
> > > adopted by the UN General Assembly
>
> > > Background:  The recent meeting of the UN General Assembly 63rd
> > > Session (Sept 23-29 New York) discussed the issue of ocean
> > > fertilization in the context of the annual UNGA resolution on oceans
> > > affairs.  EU delegations have pushed for language that would endorse
> > > the resolution from the Convention on Biological Diversity pertaining
> > > to ocean fertilization, and for deletion of language in last year's
> > > resolution that "encourage[d] States to support the further study and
> > > enhance understanding of ocean iron fertilization."   See UN General
> > > Assembly resolution 62/215, available here:
> > >http://www.imo.org/includes/blastData.asp/doc_id=10158/INF-4-Add-1.pdf
>
> > > Adopted last spring with little or no advance policy work or input
> > > from the scientific community, the CBD's decision on ocean
> > > fertilization recommended that States place unreasonable restrictions
> > > on the research of ocean fertilization.  It may be found here:
> > >http://www.cbd.int/doc/decisions/cop-09/cop-09-dec-16-en.pdf
>
> > > Immediately after the CBD resolution was published, an ad hoc
> > > consultative body established by the Intergovernmental Oceanographic
> > > Commission issued a response criticizing these restrictions and asking
> > > for clarification by CBD.  This may be found here:
>
> > >http://www.ioc-unesco.org/index.php?option=com_oe&task=viewDocumentRe...
> > > ,
> > > and is also reproduced below.
>
> > > Adoption of language endorsing the CBD's restriction on ocean
> > > fertilization research would lend credence to that decision even as it
> > > has become clear since the decision that (a) the decision was poorly
> > > considered as matter of science; and (b) new publications strongly
> > > support additional research, rather than unreasonable restrictions on
> > > OIF research [Boyd et al., 2007; Buesseler et al., 2008; Lampitt et
> > > al., 2008; Smetacek et al, 2008].
>
> > > As resolution 62/215 also notes, the London Convention and London
> > > Protocol are the proper UN bodies charged with developing an effective
> > > regulatory and policy framework around ocean fertilization.  The
> > > Convention on Biological Diversity also acknowledges the authority of
> > > the LC/LP on this issue, yet still makes statements that would
> > > unreasonable restrict research. Resolution 62/215 should remain the
> > > final statement on ocean fertilization policy.
>
> > > As this language has been referred back to national delegations, there
> > > is still time for modification before final adoption.
>
> > > *******
>
> > > Statement by IOC's ad hoc Consultative Group on the CBD Resolution
> > > (IOC/INF – 1247):
> > > III. ADDENDUM (June 14, 2008): Response to the statement of the
> > > Conference of the Parties to the Convention on Biological Diversity on
> > > Ocean Fertilization Activities (30 May 2008)
> > > The Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission (IOC) ad hoc
> > > Consultative Group on Ocean Fertilization is concerned that the
> > > statement on ocean fertilization activities issued by the Conference
> > > of the Parties to the Convention on Biodiversity in Bonn on 30 May
> > > 2008 places unnecessary and undue restriction on legitimate scientific
> > > activities.
>
> > > The statement reads, in part, "[The Conference of the Parties of the
> > > Convention on Biodiversity (COP of the CBD)] … urges other
> > > Governments, in accordance with the precautionary approach, to ensure
> > > that ocean fertilization activities do not take place until there is
> > > an adequate scientific basis on which to justify such activities,
> > > including assessing associated risks, and a global transparent and
> > > effective control and regulatory mechanism is in place for these
> > > activities; with the exception of small scale research studies within
> > > coastal waters."
>
> > > The IOC ad hoc Consultative Group on Ocean Fertilization notes that:
>
> > > (1) The COP of the CBD recognizes "the ongoing scientific and legal
> > > analysis [of ocean fertilization] occurring under the auspices of the
> > > London Convention (1972) and the 1996 London Protocol."
>
> > > (2) The CBD proposes that "ocean fertilization activities do not take
> > > place until there is an adequate
>
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>
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