Hi John,

Current theory is that glacial/interglacial phasing is related to the amount of 
solar insolation around 60-70 degrees north (where there is a lot of land 
surface, covered in snow) especially around May (when spring melt is strongest)

Basically we think that the ice/snow albedo feedback is predominant on these 
timescales. 

Amount of solar radiation at 650 N depends on astronomical characteristics of 
the earth's orbit round the sun....tilt, eccentricity, and the precession of 
the equinoxes, together known as the Milankovich cycles.

This phasing determines GMST, with CO2 levels lagging temperature by several 
hundred years, but adding additional positive feedback on the temperature.

Interglacials stop when insolation in high northern latitudes in spring falls 
to low levels allowing greater snow and ice cover.

Regards,  Colin


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Nissen 
  To: geoengineering 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Davies, John 
  Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:21 PM
  Subject: [geo] What stopped global warming before?



  Hi all,

  Through the Ice Ages, temperatures rose sharply during interglacial periods, 
but peaked at around the temperature we have today.  This temperature seemed to 
have been a natural limit.  What was the thermostat mechanism that stopped 
temperatures going higher?  Here are some possible theories:

  1.  Meltwater turned off the Gulf Stream, allowing the Arctic sea ice to 
grow, cooling the Arctic region with positive feedback on this cooling 
sufficient to make the global temperature fall sharply.

  2.  Despite greenhouse warming from water vapour (a positive feedback on 
global warming), cloud cover increased, with cloud brightening from the fiercer 
storms at sea (resulting from the global warming).  This extra albedo was 
sufficient to offset the water vapour greenhouse effect and cool the Gulf 
Stream, allowing Arctic sea ice to grow.

  3.  Sea level rise caused pressure on coastal magma chambers, thus increasing 
volcanic activity, which had an immediate cooling effect, through fine dust and 
aerosols in the stratosphere.  This again could have allowed Arctic sea ice to 
grow.

  4.  Any others?

  In each case, grow-back of the Arctic sea may have been crucial to get an 
amplification of an initial cooling.  If so, the Arctic sea ice has been 
essential to the Earth's thermostat control.  But today we are seeing this 
thermostat breaking in front of our eyes.  That is a powerful argument for 
geoengineering to save the Arctic sea ice.  Pronto.

  Cheers from Chiswick,

  John




  

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