Dear All, The complainant nations informed me today that we have been offered a meeting with the former President of the United States, His Excellency Bill Clinton in September 2009. I suggest that Indianice Geophysical Research Group has a conference so that we put up a coherent and well-made case presentation of the United Nations General Assembly dispute. It is also pertinent to raise the prospect of utilising geoengineering and other methods if the outcome of the investigations prove our way, thus making the climate risk even bigger. In my view, if it came to be discovered that the ice sheets never melted, but slid into sea, causing the sudden sea level jumps, as per 270 complainant nations, 50 times bigger "New Orleans" at hand should make even the most reluctant person into action to minimise chaos. We are not giving answers in advance, but if "the Floods", as recorded by the indigenous nations from 5 continents and many islands of the seas, come to be proven as result of the warmed and wet ice sheets suddenly loosing their footing on elevated terrain, sliding and falling off to the seas, the attempts to prevent the instability of terrestrial ice sheets will make an excellent case for rapid emissions' cuts and use of geoengineering making it far more imperative than just saying that by year 3,000 we may loose Greenland ice dome. The Three Main Paleofuture Experiments (Ice Sheet Land Containment Failure Risk) are:
The Sunken Cities of the Arabian Sea (the selected conurbations lie between 30-120 metres below sea surface), did the rising sea cause erosion if sea rose gradually by ice sheets melting peacefully away [paradigm of the Western Nations] or did the warmed and wet ice sheets suddenly loose their footing on the elevated terrain and massively slide into sea to raise sea surface rapidly high enough to preserve the Sunken Cities as "Pompeii in Water". The Indigenous nations' climatic annals that are suggestive of a large precipitation in the south with perennially overcast skies, and in the north an endless snowfall due to Icelandic Hot Spot and the Mid Atlantic Ridge gushing hot rocks in a tight feedback loop, which made pressures under continents increase massively and sea floor pressures decrease, volcanic flows perpetuating the suggested rain and snow fall. The heated sea water then ending up as a continental snow load. The pre-glaciations era biomaterials produce a positive carbon-14 reading if complainant nations give right number of years for the "Geothermal Mega-Surtsey" event, or is negative if Milutin Milankovits' slow orbital forces built up the Greenland Ice Sheet. Carbon-14 content halves each 5,770 years easily distinguishing between the two. The ground tomography tests to check out Melville Bay ice sheet land containment barriers stability, whether the tiny isthmus between the sea and Greenland Ice Dome is able to hold back the pressures that are emanating from the increasingly wet, soft and lubricated ice sheet that rests behind and above it. The ground elevation monitoring, the lateral outward movement of topographic points, tilt and tensions. Although the snow falls from the sky, on the ground the density of compressed snow settles at 850 kg/m3 and can only slide down and requires land containment failure to occur to get past the ice sheet land containment barrier at the periphery of Greenland ice dome. If it came to be shown up that are destabilising Greenland's ice dome (and other ice domes) suddenly in the post sea ice Arctic Ocean, I would really curse mankind if we came to discover risk of sudden ice sheet slide outs but we still did not do any major action (but I think this would energise mankind to swing to swift actions if proved to be a true case). If you are able to join the teleconference and have an interest, please get in touch. I just can't see any better opportunity to get climate action than huge sea level jumps if destabilised ice sheets start to slide en masse into seas like UN complainant nations put it. It is very important to get the size of the "X-factor box" in climate change reduced to the absolute minimum and get all Paleofuture Climate Risk Class cases assessed experimentally if they are valid worries or not. (Paleofuture Risks, as agreed to the Environmental Parliament Group during the Alaska Indigenous Peoples - UN summit in April 2009 by the United Nations' General Assembly President, refer to re-occurrence of global warming events of which few obscure recollections remain among some nations that are suggested to have arisen during a "global warming period" at the end of the ice age, or during it, but which phenomena we do lack present-day experiences and observations). I wished the Paleofuture Climate Risk's "X-Factor Box" is smashed and found to be full of air and unwarranted 'experiences' and worries, but until we test them, we simply do not know. In the mean time, we at FIPC give all support for the great work various groups are doing in addressing the climate change from research, emissions, renewables, mitigation and geoengineering to make our life and climate as manageable as possible for global security. With kind regards, Veli Albert Kallio, FRGS FIPC Co-ordinator ********************************************************************* Frozen Isthmuses' Protection Campaign of the Arctic and North Atlantic Oceans Veli Albert Kallio, Esq., FRGS, BBAM, BAR Telephone (Int.): + 44 - 7794 - 981 238 E-mail: albert_kal...@hotmail.com Address: 119 Mount Pleasant Bracknell, Berkshire RG12 9EA ENGLAND ********************************************************************* FIPC campaigns for both sea and land ice conservation across the entire Northern Cryosphere. I is not involved in the Antarctic or the Southern Cryospheric research or environmental campaigning. Its purpose is to advocate temperature, sea level and magnetic field stability by limiting CO2 emissions. FIPC lobbies for good shipping practises and against the practise of sea ice demolition by FESCO to induce microclimatic reconditioning, an earlier spring on the Amurskaya Bay, the Okhotsk Sea. On land FIPC campaigns for the conservation of the Faraday's Cage beneath Greenland to keep the strength and traditional location of the Magnetic North Pole unchanged by the climatic control, lobbies for studies of glacial earthquake monitoring on Melville Bay coastal depression section, and prepares for submersible expeditions to study the ancient towns that became flooded when the last ice age ended, if the settlements were abandoned gradually or suddenly. FIPC plan research to resolve whether the last ice age ended gradually by ice sheets melting in situ, or by catastrophic ice sheet slide outs. No person involved with FIPC receives money as a remuneration all the work is on voluntary basis to avoid accusations of our approach being in order to create 'climate-scare industry'. ********************************************************************* The Frozen Isthmuses' Protection Campaign was nominated to the International Nanak Peace Prize for 2008 due to importance of climate change as global security threat and efforts to mitigate or manage its impact on humanity and environment. The 2008 Peace Prize was awarded to His Holiness, Dalai Lama. ############################################################# The information contained herein is confidential and is intended only for the addressee. Any alteration, distribution, copying or re-use of this information is not permitted without the express consent of the sender. 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