It was not too long ago that it seemed difficult if not impossible to get 
funding and get geo off the ground. The CO2 crowd is not getting the attention 
it wants. Maybe it is time to to try hard for geo funding rather than complain 
about it. 
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From: "Veli Albert Kallio" <albert_kal...@hotmail.com> 
To: "Andrew Lockley" <andrew.lock...@gmail.com>, "global frozing" 
<global_froz...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: "Geoengineering FIPC" <geoengineering@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:01:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [geo] Re: Where is that geoengineering? 

Hi, 
  
Brief notes. I also think that small projects do very much make sense. 
  
I think that the balloon projects as well as some of the oceanic islands that 
have very tall mountains can be used for releasing cloud seeding or cooling 
chemicals (aerosols), and lay down a pipe to pump out SO2 or alternatives 
at such high altitude point. 
  
Costs of these are very low. The autumn time ice breaking may also spread the 
growth of winter ice. 
  
The pipeline to pump cloud forming or cooling chemicals have a benefit of large 
quantity delivery at very low cost (though duration time is much lower). 
  
Rgs, Albert 

  

Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:37:17 +0100 
Subject: [geo] Re: Where is that geoengineering? 
From: andrew.lock...@gmail.com 
To: global_froz...@yahoo.com 
CC: geoengineering@googlegroups.com 

I spoke to a representative of one of the funding organisations in the UK, and 
my understanding of the conversation was that there was simply an insufficient 
level of applications for credible, fundable geoengineering research from 
universities. 


Perhaps those with good ideas have not been aggressive enough in their search 
for funding?  Maybe it would be worth trying unconventional approaches.  
Perhaps, for example, it would be worth US researchers teaming up with British 
counterparts to gain funding?  Maybe there is an appetite for geoengineering 
research in other countries that have previously been overlooked.  India, China 
and mainland Europe are obvious places to start looking.  Perhaps we let the 
language issue stop our search? 


There are many sensible small-scale experiments that could be undertaken, such 
as Alvia's balloon project.  These would likely gain worldwide attention, due 
to the media's current appetite for geoeng.  I would like to think we've left 
no stone unturned in our efforts to get such ideas funded. 


A 


2009/8/9 global_frozing < global_froz...@yahoo.com > 



Can we here make some special page with organizations which can really 
do something about geoengineering? 

For example, I can suggest 

Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills Committee 
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmdius.htm 

Office of Science and Technology Policy 
www.ostp.gov 

American Meteorological Society 
www.ametsoc.org 

Advanced Research Projects Agency – Energy (ARPA-E) 
arpa-e.energy.gov 

United Nations Climate Change Conference 2009 (COP15) 
en.cop15.dk/about+cop15/contact 

Copenhagen Consensus Centre 
www.copenhagenconsensus.com 

Anything else? 






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