Dear Ken,

thanks a lot to Matthias, to translate the article!

I think it is important to point out that there is very likely a limit on how much the Earth's surface could be cooled using sulfate aerosols, due to coagulation processes and fall out of aerosols. Only less than 2 W/m2 reduction of global net surface SW flux was achieved in the study by Heckendorn et al., 2009, using a micro-physical model to consider size distributions of the aerosols. Niemeier et al., 2010, achieved a stronger forcing if injecting particles at 30hPa, which allow them to stay longer in the stratosphere. Though it will be hard to inject particles that high.

Cheers, Simone

References:
Niemeier, U., H. Schmidt and C. Timmreck, The dependency of geoengineered sulfate aerosol on the emission strategy, Atmos. Sci. Let., DOI: 10.1002/asl.304, 2010.

Heckendorn P, Weisenstein D, Fueglistaler S, Luo BP, Rozanov E, Schraner M, Thomason LW, Peter T. 2009. The impact of geoengineering aerosols on stratospheric temperature and ozone.
Environmental Research Letters 4: 045108. DOI: 10.1088/1748-9326/4/4/045108.



Simone,

Not reading German, I don't know precisely what is in the story.

What I said to the reporter is that if the aerosol layer similar to that
of Mt Pinatubo were sustained, it would produce a cooling of about 3 K.

This is based on estimates of Mt Pinatubo producing around 4 W / m2 of
radiative forcing (cf. Crutzen, 2006?), which is similar to a CO2
doubling -- and 3 C per CO2 doubling is in the middle of the range of
estimates for climate sensitivity. So, this is just a back-of-envelope
calculation.

A question of course, given particle aggregation and so on, is whether
such a layer could be sustained.

Best,

Ken


On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Simone Tilmes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear Ken,

    in the article you stated that Mt Pinatubo is assumed to result in a
    global cooling of about 0.5 degree. It is also stated in the text of
    the article that the amount of aerosols emitted, if they would stay
    in the stratosphere for a longer time period, would result in a 3
    degrees global cooling. Could you point me to the study you are
    referring to that calculates this amount of cooling if injecting
    volcanic aerosols of the amount of Mt Pinatubo?

    Cheers, Simone


        Ken

        It should follow from your argument about the land-sea temperature
        difference reducing precipitation on land that a technique which
        had the
        initial effect of cooling the sea would be more attractive.  If
        it were
        also possible to have a frequency response shorter than the monsoon
        cycle we could play useful tricks about the phase of operations
        relative
        to the monsoon season.

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        On 28/06/2012 06:27, Ken Caldeira wrote:

            pdf attached.

            
http://www.nzz.ch/wissen/__wissenschaft/sonnenschutz-__fuer-die-erde-1.17282213
            
<http://www.nzz.ch/wissen/wissenschaft/sonnenschutz-fuer-die-erde-1.17282213>


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