These ionization cloud seeding companies seem to me to be little more than a blend of "free-energy" style investor scams, and the old "rain-making or your money back" scams that have run for hundreds of years. There's no real science behind them, and the operations seem shady at best. They simply claim success if it rains.
Here's some good coverage of criticism of the field from NatGeo http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/01/110118-abu-dhabi-desert-rain-cloud-seeding-controversy/ Mick West contrailscience.com On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Jim Lee <rez...@gmail.com> wrote: > What are your thoughts on the work of Ionogenics, ATLANT, WeatherTec, and > Aquiess? > > http://rezn8d.com/wxmod/cloud-ionization.html > > > > On Friday, December 7, 2012 12:37:26 PM UTC-5, JohnLatham wrote: >> >> Hello Andrew, >> >> The conditions inside a Wilson cloud chamber are very different from >> in the atmosphere.The supersaturations are immense, because all natural >> CCN have been removed.Only then can Xrays initiate droplets. These >> conditions dont exist in nature. >> >> What is most needed for natural cloud formation is an unstable temperature >> structure >> and a mechanism for inducing sustained upward motion of moist air.There >> are >> virtually always CCN available, on which droplets will form. >> >> Artificial cloud production is essentially a non-starter in my view. >> >> What can be done is to increase the CCN and therefore droplet number >> concentration and cloud albedo in existing clouds. . This is the principle >> of >> cloud brightening. >> >> Not creating clouds, but brightening existing ones! >> >> All Best, John. >> >> >> >> John Latham >> Address: P.O. Box 3000,MMM,NCAR,Boulder,CO 80307-3000 >> Email: lat...@ucar.edu or john.l...@manchester.ac.uk >> Tel: (US-Work) 303-497-8182 or (US-Home) 303-444-2429 >> or (US-Cell) 303-882-0724 or (UK) 01928-730-002 >> http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/people/latham >> ________________________________________ >> From: Andrew Lockley [andrew....@gmail.com] >> Sent: 07 December 2012 03:35 >> To: Stephen Salter; John Latham; Alan Gadain; geoengineering >> Subject: X ray cloud seeding? >> >> Cloud chambers detect ionising radiation because the ions act as cloud >> condensation nuclei. >> >> Could high energy and intense x-rays be used to trigger cloud formation in >> the marine boundary layer? This might also work for drying the upper >> troposphere - by triggered nucleation and subsequent rain out, using low >> intensity, high energy x rays. >> >> A >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "geoengineering" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/geoengineering/-/L4EnM6hBVkoJ. > > To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to geoengineering+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/geoengineering?hl=en.
