Sorry about the delay I'm away from a computer.

Ron writes:

>On this list, we have pretty much stayed away from CCS - not considered to be 
>part of geoengineering - or
>what Andrew wrote about.  Can you expand on your own research to the "Geo" 
>area - perhaps specifically to
>BECCS?  I'm particularly interested in who is lying about CDR?

My research, such that it is, into GE is primarily socio-political, as any 
strategy to employ GE will have social consequences, and will be implemented 
within some kind of political framework. GE is not purely a technical problem, 
but a social problem as well.?

CCS has for a long time, as far as I can tell, been considered a significant 
part of the CDR strategy. It nearly always comes up in political discussions 
about CDR or when the coal or power industry is talking about CDR. As it is so 
often part of the background of CDR, then it would seem useful to bear it in 
mind in discussions on this list.


I've not discussed BECCS, although I think it is likely the known technical 
problems with CCS are similar in both cases. It may also be the case that most 
BE companies are not particularly interested in the CCS part. I don't know. But 
if BECCS is geo-engineering then I suspect CCS should be as well.

There is no need for anyone to be 'lying' or engaged in deliberate deceit over 
CDR. Humans are very good at self-deceit and at being over-optimistic, 
especially when their income, status or power is involved in that optimism. CDR 
in theory saves the coal industry and the coal power industry, the question is 
really whether those who it saves are doing that much to further the research, 
or whether the mere idea of CDR is enough for them to claim everything is ok, 
and leave the research to others.

This does not mean that other forms of CDR would not be more useful.

jon




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