Hi Tom

I'm just beginning to engage in this thread that's been running for a few days now.

Do you have evidence or can you refer to credible sources that corroborate the statements you made below.  The point I'm trying to get hold of is not whether there's political bias in the IPCC's work, that is relatively easy to substantiate.  But whether it was a deliberate and intended act by some actors to slant the the scientific analysis in a particular way.  If it was, who were these actors, when did they do this, how did they do it, how was it sustained, and so on.

The IPCC process involves thousands of scientists.  My understanding is that the IPCC is purely a review body and does not undertake any primary research itself, although it may provoke research in areas that it regards as worthy of further investigation.  I'm reluctant to posit a conspiracy theory in which this whole process has been subverted by dark forces, but if that's what's being proposed, it would be helpful to have some evidence of it.

We know that the SPMs are subjected to considerable political editing.  While this might impact the way that the media report the findings, those that take the trouble to engage with the detail often find it to be a mine of really useful information and references to the original research.

In the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary, I am tempted to regard the IPCC's considerable shortcomings as emergent properties of its structure and the sociopolitical context in which it is operating, and not the result of some malevolent cabal of controllers.

But if you know something different, please share.

Regards

Robert

On 16/03/2023 17:00, Tom Goreau wrote:

IPCC was given a _political_ mission, make projections what will happen for a decade or two while governments are in power, not a _scientific_ mission to determine what the actual impacts would be to the planet and humanity afterwards (warming in the pipeline).

That flawed time scale was deliberately built by governments into IPCC’s mandate at the start, IPCC was intentionally _designed_ to underestimate the problem, and any potential liabilities.


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