Chris Holmes wrote:
> So at TOPP we're taking a bit of a hiatus from paid work to focus on 
> some core improvements on GeoServer which should hopefully make future 
> development even faster.  We've focused a lot on user facing features 
> in the past couple years, neglecting some core annoyances.
Yeah!
> Chief among those is the core configuration classes and the outdated 
> struts (1) user interface technology.  I believe Justin has been 
> making progress on the configuration stuff, and it should hopefully 
> get on to trunk soon.
I am glad to see that work picked up again.
> The UI evaluation needs to be fired up again, and I'm hoping we can 
> select a technology by the time of the OSGeo sprint, June 16-22, and 
> do most of the change over then.  Meanwhile we should also keep on 
> making progress on 1.6.x bugs.  And 1.7.x is still slow, some core 
> GeoTools changes are needed.
Do you have a breakdown on what GeoTools changes are needed? We don't 
have any further changes scheduled for GeoTools trunk that I am aware 
of. There are some ideas (say a a better API for coverage access, a 
process api and such like) that are floating around but as far as I know 
they do not have a strict deadline or target GeoTools version.
> So we should make a plan for getting this work completed.  From my 
> perspective I'd like to see 1.7.0 in release candidate status around 
> the end of June.
So does 1.7.0 include a new user interface or not? Trying to figure out 
what is where when ... I see further in the email you are trying to make 
that decision as well.
> From the TOPP side we can put some substantial resource in to this: 
> Andrea, Gabriel and Justin should have a majority of their time 
> available, and David and Arne can pitch in when our KML project  
> completes.  If other people are available to help out do let us know 
> so we can plan on that.
End of June sounds fine on this end; we may end up cutting some of the 
unsupported modules from the GeoTools 2.5.x branch (such as process) 
rather than showing them to the world quite yet.
> I'm going to be at conferences and vacation for much of this time, so 
> I'd prefer a plan that everyone feels comfortable with committing to.
> If we don't think it's reasonable to get all that done and stable by 
> the end of June then we can come up with something less ambitious.  
> Perhaps just focusing on a really solid REST API along with core 
> config?  But this is one of the few times that paid or product 
> priorities aren't dominating, so it's an opportunity to really tighten 
> up a core that will allow us to move faster in the future.
Agreed.
> We should also think about if we want to try to redo the UI, or if we 
> should just replace the backend technology and leave the html there.  
> We can put an interaction designer on making something that's more 
> intuitive, but in the interest of less moving parts it could be good 
> to hold off on that, and then call the results of that GeoServer 2.0. 
> Could perhaps move off the 1.7.x release date and just aim for a super 
> solid 2.0 by end of August?
I am conflicted on this one; the amount of change / instability of the 
GeoTools level makes me want to call the next release GeoTools 3 / 
GeoServer 2 etc... I like the idea of a 2.0 release at the end of 
August. The timing looks good for the WPS work as well.

I am open to both suggestions, I can see it two ways:
- technology wise a 1.7 release backed on to the new config subsystem 
and a GeoTools 2.5 makes a lot of sense (walk before we can run). I 
would like to hear back on how that work is going from Justin.
- product wise it is nice to deploy all of these in an exciting 
GeoServer 2.0 release (with a line up of FOSS4G announcement & workshops)
> In the interest of not having super long emails I'll bring this to a 
> close, would love to hear more people's thoughts on the next month or 
> two, what we should plan on and get done.  And should coordinate the 
> rest of the plans with GeoTools, ect.
Cheers,
Jody

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