To be honest, if we have already a good mechanism to do filtering in place
I would prefer to re-use the existing one, unless we envisage a big "stop"
due to it's capabilities or performances or whatelse.

Regards,
        Alessio.

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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Gabriel Roldan <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Andrea Aime
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Gabriel Roldan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> All this said, I re-enforce this is a design decision I'm willing to
> >> concede on and switch to OGC Filter. The only real blocker IMHO is the
> >> inability to easily extend in-place, but having to use Catalog
> >> specific function factories, flooding the general purpose filters with
> >> catalog specific ones, or rather having to give up execution of
> >> predicates on the backend and being forced to iterate (over a lot of
> >> objects) in place, apply the in-process filtering on the client code,
> >> and be exposed to unnecesary wrapping from catalog decorators.
> >
> >
> > Read it all, I agree more or less with the pro/cons statements but not
> with
> > the value judgements, to me the pros in using OGC filter model far
> > overwheight the points in favor of the Predicate and the opposite happens
> > for the limitations.
> > I guess we can agree to disagree, and we'll need the rest of the PSC
> > to act as a tie breaker.
> >
> > About the ability to extract properties out of the catalog objects, I
> > believe we
> > can get 90% there using BeanUtils inside a property extractor that
> activates
> > when
> > the object to be evaluated is a CatalogInfo, in fact the syntax you are
> > using today to
> > specify the nested property names is the same as the BeanUtils one (which
> > is, btw,
> > already in the classpath).
> >
> > About the need to have to roll a lot of filter functions... some of the
> > things we need
> > can be managed as properties using custom property extractors, as for the
> > others I'm wondering if we cannot just roll anonymous filter functions.
> > The reasons to have registered functions are:
> > - being able to turn them into CQL/XML. Something we don't need, we would
> >   not be able to do so with Predicate anyways
> > - deep clone filters, again, something we won't be able to do with
> Predicate
> > anyways
> >
> > Soo... what's preventing us from having a PredicateFunction base class
> that
> > lets
> > us generate a new filter function implementation inline as follows:
> >
> > new PredicateFunction() {
> >   Object  evaluate(Object feature) {
> >      return ((ResourceInfo)).enabled();
> >   }
> > }
> >
>
> I can live with that. The "breakage" of the OGC Filter usage pattern
> would be confined to the org.geoserver.catalog package so... as long
> as everybody is happy with that, it's ok to me.
> Glad we're getting to an agreement.
>
> Cheers,
> Gabriel
>
> > Instead of rolling a whole new API and code set we'd just have to roll
> some
> > documentation
> > bits on how the catalog subsystem manages the OGC filters.
> > To me it's so much better it's a no brainer, although I understand you
> have
> > a different set
> > of values and thus a different opinion.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Andrea
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
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