Hi Niels,

Geotools is already using JDBC 4.2, so using anything but 4.2 is going to
be a bit problematic.

Well, looking at hibernate, when building Geofence integrated version, the
Postgres JDBC driver pulled in by hibernate will have to be excluded to not
cause conflicts with Geotools:
https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/blob/master/databases/pgsql/matrix.gradle#L7
https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1605

A different option might be to have instructions to delete the one pulled
in by geotools, but I think that will end up being too confusing.

Thanks,
Ami

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> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 20:39:30 +0200
> From: Niels Charlier <ni...@scitus.be>
> To: Emanuele Tajariol <e...@geo-solutions.it>
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> Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] upgrade geofence hibernate
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> Hello Emanuele,
>
> Thanks for your comments. We feel the same way about option (3),
> although I feel it would be the easiest in short run, our concern is
> indeed that we will end up needing to support this library by ourselves.
>
> What about this question:
>
> We would like to upgrade to Hibernate 5.2 after all, which means moving
> to JDBC 4.2. Would that be okay for your end?
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Niels
>
> On 30-06-17 19:28, Emanuele Tajariol wrote:
> > Hi Niels,
> >
> >> 1) Switch to another framework, in which case spring data seems to be
> >> the obvious choice to me. There are two sub-options
> > Since the DAO module shall work both inside the standalone GeoFence
> version
> > and within GeoServer (when using the geofence-server plugin), I'd go
> with the
> > full removal of the genericdao library, and use the same libs GeoServer
> is
> > already using.
> > If GeoServer is not using anything particular, we may just go and see if
> we
> > can simply use the hibernate API to do most of the filtering work that
> is done
> > using the genericdao lib.
> >
> > 1b) requires some more work that will eventually be dropped, and
> probably the
> > work on the fixing needed to make the bridging API work will be
> comparable to
> > the 1a) option.
> >
> > I wouldn't pick 2) or 3), since it means to become the maintainer of a
> quite
> > unrelated project :)
> >
> > I guess that the 1a) option may be the cheaper in the long run.
> >
> >
> >     Cheers,
> >     Emanuele
> >
> >
> > Alle 17:54:30 di Thursday 8 June 2017, Niels Charlier ha scritto:
> >> Emanuele,
> >>
> >> I see three possible options:
> >>
> >> 1) Switch to another framework, in which case spring data seems to be
> >> the obvious choice to me. There are two sub-options
> >> (a) make a whole new DAO api and immediately modify all the services to
> >> the work with it -> major!
> >> (b) create a deprecated bridging API so that the services code do not
> >> all need to be changed at once
> >>
> >> 2) Internalise the generic DAO, which would essentially mean copy-paste
> >> a lot of code from the hibernate-generic-dao library and then I wonder
> >> if we wouldn't just better go for option 3
> >>
> >> 3) patch the existing library to work with the new hibernate. This could
> >> potentially actually be the least work of all - possibly not much is
> >> needed to make it work again, but I'd need more analysis. Then again, it
> >> must be abandoned for a reason?
> >>
> >> DO you agree with my analysis? What do you think of these options? What
> >> is your preference?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Niels
> >>
> >> On 05-06-17 11:08, Emanuele Tajariol wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> please also note that, on top of hibernate, GeoFence relies heavily on
> >>> the generic-dao library (com.googlecode.genericdao:dao version 1.1.0),
> >>> so it should also be checked that it is compatible with the hibernate
> >>> version we'll want to use.
> >>>
> >>> The lib seems to have been automatically migrated here:
> >>>      https://github.com/based2/hibernate-generic-dao
> >>>
> >>> but there's no recent activity on it.
> >>> Replacing that library in GeoFence will require a major rework of the
> >>> persistence and service modules.
> >>>
> >>>      Cheers,
> >>>      Emanuele
> >>>
> >>> Alle 09:54:10 di Monday 5 June 2017, Nuno Oliveira ha scritto:
> >>>> GeoFence uses GitHub issues:
> >>>> https://github.com/geoserver/geofence/issues
> >>>>
> >>>> So at least JDBC 4.0 is required:
> >>>> https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html#archived
> >>>>
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/features/jdbc/index-091264.ht
> >>>> ml
> >>>>
> >>>> On 02-06-2017 10:53, Niels Charlier wrote:
> >>>>> question: is there a JIRA for work on geofence's own modules (not the
> >>>>> ones in geoserver)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Niels
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 02-06-17 11:24, Niels Charlier wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello Nuno,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 01-06-17 17:00, Nuno Oliveira wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What dependencies are conflicting with recent postgres/postgis
> stores
> >>>>>>> and what are actually the issues ?
> >>>>>> I don't actually know... This is the only information that has been
> >>>>>> given to me. I could find out though, but I understand you agree
> with
> >>>>>> an upgrade in principle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyway Hibernate 3.6.0.Final was release 7 years ago and has two
> >>>>>>> major versions on top of it so upgrading to a more recent version
> is
> >>>>>>> probably something that should be done:
> >>>>>>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.hibernate/hibernate-core
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My main concern is the impact on existing installations of
> GeoFence,
> >>>>>>> taking in account the commonly used databases (PostgreSQL, Oracle,
> >>>>>>> ...) which versions will still compatible ? Hibernate rely on the
> >>>>>>> JDBC driver of the database so the question can be rephrased, which
> >>>>>>> JDBC versions are supported by 3.6.0.Final that are no supported by
> >>>>>>> 5.x ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>   From the hibernate website:
> >>>>>> "Hibernate 5.2 and later versions require at least Java 1.8 and JDBC
> >>>>>> 4.2.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hibernate 5.1 and older versions require at least Java 1.6 and JDBC
> >>>>>> 4.0."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I found posts via google that suggest hibernate 3.6 supported JDBC3,
> >>>>>> but I cannot find any official documentation that confirms this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think we could opt for hibernate 5.1 if that makes things more
> >>>>>> backwards compatible, because I was asked 5.x
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The spatial extension of Hibernate also suffered several changes,
> do
> >>>>>>> you see possible incompatibility issues ?
> >>>>>> I cannot find documentation that lists migration issues. I am
> assuming
> >>>>>> I will face quite a few issues, but that these can be resolved. I am
> >>>>>> hoping that the test coverage is sufficient, so that if I can make
> >>>>>> all the tests work again I can assume that it works...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> Niels
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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