Hello Mats, hello Andrea, hello Niels, thanks for the information!
We just installed the newest version of geoserver (2.20.2) together with the CSW-plugin, the CSW-ISO-plugin and the metadata-plugin. Unfortunately the srv-namespace is still missing (as discribed below in my first mail). It seems that Niels has an idea how to solve this problem, see below. As far as I am not familiar with programming in Java and the compiling- and Maven-stuff (I only know Python and some Javascript), we need some help. („We“ means: We are a team of 4 people doing the GIS-stuff in the administration of Norderstedt, a town in Northern-Germany.) We talked to the head of our department and it seems to be the best not only to solve this particular problem, but having a longterm support for our geoserver. (We still want to host it by our own.) We are intrested that the CSW-ISO-plugin and the metadata-plugin become part of the core modules. What we now need is (at least) one offer. As far as I do not know how the politics in the geoserver-project work, espacially what is needed that a community-module becomes a core-extension, I can first of all only ask into the blue: It seems that Niels is most familiar with the CSW-ISO-plugin. So @Niels: Can you make us an offer to fix the issue, put the two modules in the core and supports us for (at least) one year? If Niels can’t make or force the decision that the modules become part of the core-extension, who can do this? Maybe GeoSolutions? @Andrea: If that’s the case can you help us with an offer from GeoSolutions? Another idea would be to combine these two options, e.g.: Niels fixes the plugin(s), GeoSolutions put’s the plugins into the core and we get one year support from GeoSolutions or from Niels. So we now need some input from your side for making a decision. Best regards, Heiko Friedrich Stadt Norderstedt Die Oberbürgermeisterin Amt 17 – Interne Digitale Dienste Rathausallee 50 22846 Norderstedt Telefon +49 40 535 95-749 Internet E-Mail [cid:image001.png@01D588B6.BEFD89D0]<http://www.norderstedt.de/> heiko.friedr...@norderstedt.de <mailto:heiko.friedr...@norderstedt.de%20> [cid:image002.png@01D588B6.BEFD89D0] Von: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2022 20:16 An: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: [EXTERN] Re: [Geoserver-devel] srv-namespace missing in CSW-service Hello Heiko, I believe the namespaces for CSW-ISO are hard coded in org.geoserver.csw.records.iso.MetaDataDescriptor, though I cannot guarantee that adding it there is all that is needed to resolve your issue. Perhaps it would be interesting making this a configurable thing. Kind Regards Niels Von: Niels Charlier <ni...@scitus.be> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2022 20:09 An: mats.elfst...@giskraft.se; Friedrich, Heiko <heiko.friedr...@norderstedt.de> Cc: GeoServer <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Betreff: [EXTERN] Re: [Geoserver-devel] srv-namespace missing in CSW-service Dear Mats and Heiko, Andrea is mostly right; however one correction: I do not mind at all giving free email support for problems with installation and configuration of the community modules (not for actual dev/depl work of course). However, it is true that it is often necessary to ping me specifically, unfortunately. I can assure you that the modules do work, since they are in use by several government departments (not all of them deployed by me). It is definitely possible the documentation needs improvement, so it would be great to hear the issues that others are having with it. It would actually be in the interest of the current users if the modules were used by more users, and they are very aware of that. Kind Regards Niels On 05/01/2022 19:40, Andrea Aime wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 12:56 PM Mats Elfström <mats.elfst...@giskraft.se<mailto:mats.elfst...@giskraft.se>> wrote: Hi Friedrich! I am afraid that the whole geoserver csw and metadata subsystems seem broken (CSW-plugin, the CSW-ISO-plugin, meta-data plugin and the INSPIRE plugin). The part that is supported is the CSW core with Dublin Core records only. The others are marked as unsupported for a reason :-) Since it is a mix of supported and unsupported plugins, no one seems able to even identify what needs to be done. This is incorrect. There are plenty of people that could, but it would require significant effort, more than can be spent answering a mail. The ISO plugin was written by Niels Charlier on behalf of Boundless. Boundless is no more, Niels showed no desire to get involved with user support on the free channels... As a result, nobody can give you the "5 minutes answer", the only type of answer that you'll get on this list, or on stack overflow. There are other options, but they involve spending money: * Contact Niels and get a contract to solve your particular problem. * Contact any commercial support provider<http://geoserver.org/support/> involving a core developer. These people can use part of the contract to get up to speed with the module, and provide a fix. This would come with a significant by-product, core developers _are_ answering on this list... meaning you'll open the path for simple free answers in the future. It does not have to be you, but there needs to be a seed customer that triggers this process. I have been struggling with this since summer, and I can tell you this: Following the installation and configuring advice in the manual does not work. Perhaps this is the error, and the plugins actually do work. One cannot tell. Another advice I got is that no one uses these extensions, which may be why no one cares to fix them. As far as I know, there is just one user (and guess who's providing support and development to them?). Same happens for the meta-data module. Cheers Andrea == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://bit.ly/gs-services-us for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions Group phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 333 8128928 https://www.geosolutionsgroup.com/ http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it ------------------------------------------------------- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. 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I am afraid that the whole geoserver csw and metadata subsystems seem broken (CSW-plugin, the CSW-ISO-plugin, meta-data plugin and the INSPIRE plugin). Since it is a mix of supported and unsupported plugins, no one seems able to even identify what needs to be done. I have been struggling with this since summer, and I can tell you this: Following the installation and configuring advice in the manual does not work. Perhaps this is the error, and the plugins actually do work. One cannot tell. Another advice I got is that no one uses these extensions, which may be why no one cares to fix them. This is sad, because Geoserver could be a great platform for publishing geodata AND valid metadata from the same point. Regards, Mats.E ------------------------------------------------------------- Den ons 5 jan. 2022 kl 12:13 skrev Friedrich, Heiko <heiko.friedr...@norderstedt.de<mailto:heiko.friedr...@norderstedt.de>>: Hello everybody, I tried wo write that problem to the issue-board ( https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/GEOS/issues ) but I can’t login although I have an account. So I trie it here, maybe somebody can help. We are using the geoserver CSW-plugin, the CSW-ISO-plugin and the meta-data plugin. In one of these plugins the namespaces for the CSW-service is set. I don’t know in which of these. Unfortunately the srv-namespace is missing ( xmlns:srv=http://www.isotc211.org/2005/srv ). (In CSW-services from other mapservers the srv-namespace is available, e.g.: https://geoportal-hamburg.de/metaver_de/csw?service=CSW&request=GetRecordById&version=2.0.2&outputschema=http:%2F%2Fwww.isotc211.org%2F2005%2Fgmd&elementsetname=full&id=9784D2A9-AEEA-46DF-9FAD-2FA14BFCA00D ) Before we updated to geoserver version 2.20.1 there was also the gml-namespace missing, but know it works… ☺ Maybe somebody can tell me in which of the plugins the namespace is set, if I can configure it somewhere of if it is a bug and it has to be fixed? Kind regards! Heiko Friedrich PS: If it helps, the x-path confiugred in the MD_Metadata.properties should look like this: identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.serviceType.LocalName.@codeSpace=‘test<mailto:identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.serviceType.LocalName.@codeSpace=‘test>‘ identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.serviceTypeVersion.CharacterString=‘test‘ identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.couplingType.SV_CouplingType@codeList<mailto:identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.couplingType.SV_CouplingType@codeList>=‘test‘ identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.containsOperations.SV_OperationMetadata.operationName.CharacterString=‘test‘ identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.operatesOn.@href<mailto:identificationInfo.SV_ServiceIdentification.operatesOn.@href>=‘test‘ ##################################################################################### Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. 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