Hi,

I would consider some other name because this format is not GeoJSON. OGC is 
using name "OGC Features and geometries JSON" in its own project for enhancing 
GeoJSON https://docs.ogc.org/DRAFTS/21-045.html. Perhaps your format could be 
something like "Slim JSON for features".
Maybe you could contact also other open source projects for collecting more 
opinions and suggestions. A short announcement on the gdal-dev mailing list 
might be a good start.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

-----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
Lähettäjä: Carsten Klein <c.kl...@datagis.com> 
Lähetetty: torstai 6. lokakuuta 2022 16.47
Vastaanottaja: Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geosolutionsgroup.com>
Kopio: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; bj...@wololo.org
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] Enhancement: WFS Simple Feature Response in new 
more compact JSON/JSONP format

Hello Andrea,

I've just issued a PR on GitHub. The format and community module has been 
renamed to "Slim GeoJSON". "Slim" is shorter and likely easier to pronounce 
than compact (together with GeoJSON).

Sorry for struggling and messing around with Git. However, the final version of 
the PR should be OK for merging.

There are still some issues with QA checks and build checks (a test failed on 
Mac). I've written some more remarks on that in the PR on GitHub.

Cheers
Carsten


On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:17 AM Andrea Aime wrote
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 10:08 AM Carsten Klein <c.kl...@datagis.com 
> <mailto:c.kl...@datagis.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hello there,
> 
>     the new WFS output format CompactJSON, implemented as a community
>     extension, is ready and works as expected. With our mentioned WFS
>     responses (1.000+ features, 450 columns each), compared to standard
>     GeoJSON, savings are between ~30% and ~70% (uncompressed) and between
>     ~20% and ~50% with gzip content encoding. (see ´Statistics´ and
>     ´Conclusion´ below)
> 
>     What are the next steps in order to contribute/publish the new
>     community
>     extension? Shall I commit all the stuff to my forked ´geoserver´
>     repository and issue a CR including all changes required in existing
>     core code (that is the existing JSON producer)?
> 
> 
> Yes, make a Pull Request and send a CLA to OSGeo. When opening the PR 
> you have a checklist that needs to be satisfied, with links to the 
> relevant docs.
> For reference, here it is:
> 
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> 
>     One last question: some of the WFS format extensions have one or more
>     GeoServerApplication.properties files, which seem to provide human
>     readable names for the actual MIME types or formats. Should I provide
>     these, too? Where are these texts used? What are the rules?
> 
> 
> It would be nice if you could add it, yes. They are used in the format 
> dropdown you can find in the layer preview page. We don't have a list 
> of rules, checking what the other formats do and mimicking it, is the 
> de-facto approach when adding a new output format.
> 
>     Statistics
>     ==========
> 
>     Given two layers A and B, both having ~450 columns. Layer A's geometry
>     contains polygons (~300 vertices each). Layer B has point geometries
>     (created as a view of layer A with ST_Centroid(the_geom) AS the_geom).
> 
>     Querying only ~1,000 and all ~10,000 features/rows from both layers:
> 
>     Layer A (heavy polygons)
>     ------------------------
> 
>     ~1,000 rows      bytes raw         bytes gzip
> 
>     GeoJSON:      19,098,924 (100%)  5,361,536 (100%)
> 
>     CompactJSON:  12,586,758 ( 66%)  4,234,995 ( 79%)
> 
>     FlatGeobuf:   10,093,224 ( 53%)  7,006,365 (130%)
> 
> 
>     Layer A (heavy polygons)
>     ------------------------
> 
>     ~10,000 rows     bytes raw         bytes gzip
> 
>     GeoJSON:     174,686,637 (100%) 45,414,569 (100%)
> 
>     CompactJSON: 109,700,539 ( 63%) 35,677,456 ( 78%)
> 
>     FlatGeobuf:   86,031,048 ( 49%) 58,857,835 (130%)
> 
> 
> 
>     Layer B (lightweight points)
>     ----------------------------
> 
>     ~1,000 rows      bytes raw         bytes gzip
> 
>     GeoJSON:       9,443,980 (100%)  2,236,172 (100%)
> 
>     CompactJSON:   2,931,814 ( 31%)  1,174,942 ( 53%)
> 
>     FlatGeobuf:    3,710,902 ( 39%)  2,044,614 ( 91%)
> 
> 
>     Layer B (lightweight points)
>     ----------------------------
> 
>     ~10,000 rows     bytes raw         bytes gzip
> 
>     GeoJSON:      92,394,763 (100%) 18,923,302 (100%)
> 
>     CompactJSON:  27,408,665 ( 30%)  9,720,941 ( 51%)
> 
>     FlatGeobuf:   32,588,230 ( 35%) 16,824,845 ( 89%)
> 
> 
>     Conclusion
>     ==========
> 
>     Savings mainly depend on the ratio between schema information and data.
>     That is, savings are small if features have much more data than schema
>     information. Typically, geometries may get quite large, so savings
>     depend on the size/complexity of the feature's geometries. (e. g. tests
>     where done using complex polygons vs. simple point objects)
> 
>     Also remarkable is that CompactJSON produces not much bigger responses
>     (aka is not much worse) than FlatGeobuf. However, FlatGeobuf responses
>     do not compress very well and are bigger than compressed CompactJSON in
>     all (and even bigger than compressed GeoJSON if geometries are heavy in
>     some) cases.
> 
> 
> Interesting finding indeed.
> 
> Cheers
> Andrea
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