Everyone does what they like - we have build tools to keep formatting
consistent (which makes life easier for everyone).

Personally I use both IntelliJ and maven+text editor as the situation
warrants. I use eclipse for large refactoring - although we did the last
refactoring using scripts so it was crazy.

I believe you can get Eclipse to work if that is your preferred choice. I
would focus on maven integration and ignore the rest.

Note: in IntelliJ I have to turn off a lot of the spring framework and
JavaEE helpers because geoserver is split across so many modules the IDE
produces warnings and confusion.
--
Jody Garnett


On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 8:54 AM Watermeyer, Andreas <
andreas.waterme...@its-digital.de> wrote:

> Hi Jody,
>
> thanks for your explanations, that helps me.
>
> Regarding the IDE:
> Has the project agreed on the use of a different IDE or does everyone
> follow their personal preference?  What do you think is used by the
> majority?
>
> --
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> Von: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2024 05:52
> An: Watermeyer, Andreas <andreas.waterme...@its-digital.de>
> Cc: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Geoserver-devel] Eclipse Setup
>
> [Externe E-Mail] Vorsicht beim Öffnen von Links und Anhängen. / Be careful
> when opening links and attachments.
> It has been a couple years since I used Eclipse IDE personally.  I found
> it was important to do one run on the command line to make the generated
> code directories so the IDE could see them.
>
> For community modules we try and respect that they are experiments and
> ensure they compile (so take part in any refactoring) - but we do not offer
> them CPU cycles for testing on our build server (they are not stable enough
> to always pass tests).
>
> We know for the work ahead that OAuth community plugins need to be
> rewritten; if possible I would like to have one release cycle where new
> community module for OIDC is made alongside the older one to allow folks to
> migrate. But really for such an important component it difficult to
> understand why they have not attracted funding to be stable.
>
> So goal is:
> 1. include community module in refactor with the goal of compiling
> 2. Include community module in dependency upgrade with goal of compiling
> 3. When dependency upgrade cannot even compile (sigh) spend a few minuets
> to determine why, comment the plugin of the “release” profile, and notify
> the developer
>
> 1. How do you handle the extensions and the community modules
>
> Yes it does, I think this is why I stopped using Eclipse.
>
> 2. What do you do in case your changes on for example GS platform breaks
> community code or community tests.
>
> The priority is the code: do whatever you can to make it compile.
> If you really cannot get it to compile (say due to a dependency change)
> drop it from the build.
> The tests are not a priority at all, they are not included in the build.
>
> Your time as a volunteer is to be respected.
>
> 3. What is the expectation for the Jakarta EE migration regarding
> extensions and community code?
>
> Extensions are part of the GeoServer application and will be migrated.
> They are only optional to download, not optional to the GeoServer story.
> The module maintainer put enough enough tests to help us as maintainers
> just for situations like this.
> (We experienced this first hand with the big bad geotools refactor last
> year, the test coverage for GeoServer is really good and it makes the code
> much more maintainable).
>
> Community modules are experiments, and to be treated as such. There tests
> do not need to pass, or even be run.
>
> We have to respect our time as volunteers.
>
> 4. I wonder if you experience some specific problems, too and how you
> handle them
>
> a) In geofence: "The package javax.xml.namespace is accessible from more
> than one module: <unnamed>, java.xml". This causes a chain of compiler
> errors for me in Eclipse. Similar in other projects.
>
> During the api change last year we had to make a branch on the geofence
> project and work in parallel.
> The same for geowebcache, and mapfish-print-v2.
>
> b) Eclipse has trouble with "GeoServerTestSupport" because it is
> referenced tests of dependent projects, but it resides in
> gs-main/src/test/java, where it is not avaible for reuse. Normally it would
> expect that GeoServerTestSupport is in src/main/java of a test project or
> gs-main is an additional "test-jar" dependency. How do you handle that?
>
> I remember being able to add a test dependency or something in eclipse. It
> is unusual but maven supports doing so.
>
> c) Eclipse: Cannot nest
> "gs-rest-openapi-generated-feign-client/target/generated-sources/openapi/src/main/java"
> inside "gs-rest[...]".
>
> I would talk to Gabe about that - it looks very cool.  I assume it is an
> integration test. A generated maven project that eclipse has picked up?
> I do not think you edit that code directly, somehow ignore it from Eclipse
> and trust the command line to run that integration test.
>
> Have a good weekend yourself.
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 10:23 AM Watermeyer, Andreas <mailto:
> andreas.waterme...@its-digital.de> wrote:
> Hi community,
>
> I am trying to setup Eclipse 2023-12 with JDK 11 for the GeoServer project
> to support in the Jakarta EE migration. I use the main branch and I pretty
> much followed the developer guide. I have a couple of questions though:
>
> 1. How do you handle the extensions and the community modules: The
> workspace gets pretty big having all those projects open and Eclipse is
> quite slow especially on pom updates. Do you close the community module you
> are not responsible for?
>
> 2. What do you do in case your changes on for example GS platform breaks
> community code or community tests. Do you fix them? Or is the maintainer
> expected to jump in?
>
> 3.  What is the expectation for the Jakarta EE migration regarding
> extensions and community code?
>
> 4. I wonder if you experience some specific problems, too and how you
> handle them. For example:
>
> a) In geofence: "The package javax.xml.namespace is accessible from more
> than one module: <unnamed>, java.xml". This causes a chain of compiler
> errors for me in Eclipse. Similar in other projects.
>
> b) Eclipse has trouble with "GeoServerTestSupport" because it is
> referenced tests of dependent projects, but it resides in
> gs-main/src/test/java, where it is not avaible for reuse. Normally it would
> expect that GeoServerTestSupport is in src/main/java of a test project or
> gs-main is an additional "test-jar" dependency. How do you handle that?
>
> c) Eclipse: Cannot nest
> "gs-rest-openapi-generated-feign-client/target/generated-sources/openapi/src/main/java"
> inside "gs-rest[...]".
>
> Thank you for your support and have a nice weekend!
>
> Andreas
>
>
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