Thanks Andrea,

I thought that Java 8 was being used, but it wasn't. The Tomcat instance
was still pointing to Java 6 in Tomcat7w.exe. I checked the "Use Default",
and then it started working.

Thanks for the help!
Roger

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it>
wrote:

> Hi Roger,
> wait, I've seen what I was looking for after all:
>
> java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
> org/geoserver/GeoserverInitStartupListener : Unsupported major.minor
> version 51.0 (unable to load class
> org.geoserver.GeoserverInitStartupListener)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.findClassInternal(WebappClassLoader.java:2899)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.findClass(WebappClassLoader.java:1173)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.loadClass(WebappClassLoader.java:1681)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.loadClass(WebappClassLoader.java:1559)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.core.DefaultInstanceManager.loadClass(DefaultInstanceManager.java:527)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.core.DefaultInstanceManager.loadClassMaybePrivileged(DefaultInstanceManager.java:509)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.core.DefaultInstanceManager.newInstance(DefaultInstanceManager.java:137)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.listenerStart(StandardContext.java:4854)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.startInternal(StandardContext.java:5434)
> at org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleBase.start(LifecycleBase.java:150)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:901)
> at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:877)
> at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:633)
> at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployWAR(HostConfig.java:976)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig$DeployWar.run(HostConfig.java:1653)
> at java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Unknown Source)
> at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(Unknown Source)
> at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(Unknown Source)
> at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(Unknown Source)
> at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
>
> So yeah, you cannot use java 6 anymore (GeoServer 2.5 was the last release
> to support it if memory serves me well),
> you need at least java 7, but the above log comes from the
> logs2-8-0Java8.zip, which makes me believe your tomcat is not really running
> on Java 8 after all
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Roger,
>> I don't see GeoServer own log, to be found in the data directory, under
>> logs/geoserver.log
>> That's the one I was interested into when I described the procedure to
>> gather the full logs :-)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Roger Bedell <sylvanasc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Andrea,
>>> Here are the logs, but I don't think you find much more. This is the
>>> problem - very little to go on. However, when I put 2.5.5.1 back in the
>>> Tomcat Webapps (the same exact place as I tried 2.8.0), it starts up and
>>> runs fine.
>>>
>>> This got me thinking, why not try the releases since 2.5.5.1?
>>>
>>> So, I did the following:
>>>
>>> 1) Started the 2.5.5.1 war with no extensions. - this started fine
>>> 2) Same for 2.6.5. Didn't start, but the log has some details about
>>> security.
>>> 3) Same for 2.7.2 Also didn't start, nothing in the log.
>>> 4) And for 2.8.0, same as 2.7.2
>>>
>>> This made me think about the Java version. On the dev server, we have
>>>
>>> java version "1.7.0"
>>> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b147)
>>> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b17, mixed mode)
>>>
>>> On the new server, we had JRE-6u43_64bit, but then I upgraded to:
>>>
>>> java version "1.8.0_60"
>>> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_60-b27)
>>> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.60-b23, mixed mode)
>>>
>>> with the same result, no startup for 1.8.0 or 1.6.5 (logs attached also)
>>>
>>> All the logs for each startup are attached.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Andrea Aime <
>>> andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Roger,
>>>> there is not enough info in the logs you provided. Suggestion:
>>>> * clean the log file completely
>>>> * restart geoserver, make it fail
>>>> * zip the full log file, share it on the list
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Roger Bedell <sylvanasc...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for completeness, I just tried the 2.8.0 release, and it doesn't
>>>>> start either.
>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>> Roger
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Roger Bedell <sylvanasc...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>>> I just ran into a strange situation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been testing 2.8 RC1 on a development server with good results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I then tried to run it on another server, which has the same Tomcat
>>>>>> version and has been running 2.5.5.1 happily for some time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.8RC1 refuses to start. Very little information in the log files,
>>>>>> just this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> INFO: Starting service Catalina
>>>>>> Oct 1, 2015 1:17:32 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine
>>>>>> startInternal
>>>>>> INFO: Starting Servlet Engine: Apache Tomcat/7.0.42
>>>>>> Oct 1, 2015 1:17:32 AM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
>>>>>> deployWAR
>>>>>> INFO: Deploying web application archive
>>>>>> E:\OGI\Programs\Tomcat\apache-tomcat-GeoServer\webapps\geoserver.war
>>>>>> Oct 1, 2015 1:17:38 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext
>>>>>> startInternal
>>>>>> SEVERE: Error listenerStart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any hints on what to look for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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