Hello Harleen, Andrea,

Thank you very much for the input! Harleen, your problem is exactly the
same as we are facing. I am also adding authentication with geofence and
pull the exisiting users from the users.xml file. Normally we only add just
a few users without any problems. But indeed with more than 200 users the
lockdown happens.

I have just pushed a new Geoserver build to production and changed both
config files to checkInterval 0 and validating to false. However the
problem still persists. I have rebooted the instances and restarted all the
task definitions. What do you mean exactly with 'redeploy Geofence and
security settings including the users.xml and roles.xml'? We have those
settings on a shared mount so that each Geoserver instance uses the same
settings. What steps did you do to redeploy, without creating new user and
role xmls?

Andrea, I do not thing it can be reproduced without Geofence in the mix, as
this is the only way to add users via the REST API. I can however reproduce
it with Geofence. Also thanks for the support link.

Kind regards,
Darell

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it>
wrote:

> Hi Darell and Harleen,
> it seems you're on to something. Wondering, can it be reproduced without
> GeoFence in the mix?
> It would be useful to have a script that reproduces the problem on a
> vanilla GeoServer installation, if that can be done
> please open a ticket with it at: https://osgeo-org.
> atlassian.net/projects/GEOS/summary
>
> Darell, this list offers volountary support, which does not do "urgent"
> (well, not with guarantees at least, it can happen of course).
> If you're in a hurry I'd suggest you also check http://geoserver.org/
> support/
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:50 AM, Harleen Lappano <hlapp...@cssflorida.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Darell,
>>
>> I'm not a expert on Geoserver. However, funny story is that I ran into
>> this same issue last Friday as we were pushing our changes to our
>> production.
>> We are using Geoserver 2.9.1 for our product. I don't remember the tomcat
>> version.
>>
>> If it wasn't for your email, we would have been still trying to trace
>> down all our changes and deltas we made for this push window, so I
>> appreciate that you posted this it helped us narrow down and push pass this
>> issue.
>>
>> We were adding authentication to our geoserver with geofence so we can
>> add users using the REST api. I did a similar script where I pulled our
>> existing users in our system to also add them to the geoserver's user list
>> using REST api. At some point in our process we had a total lock down on
>> our geoserver in production. So just to see I ran a script on our dev box
>> to add 200 random users to the geoserver and was able to reproduce what
>> happened in our production.
>>
>> This is what we did based on our observations of the problem and it
>> seemed to get pass this issue for now. We are still running tests this week
>> on our product, however, mabe it will help you get along as well.
>> We are thinking that there might be an issue in geoserver regarding the
>> users.xml or roles.xml. It seems like the 3 components that might be the
>> cause are 1. Authentication Cache that runs every 10 minutes, 2. Our curl
>> commands in our script that adds the user. and 3. The interval check for
>> modifications on the users.xml or roles.xml. (these are the names we chose,
>> but it is the xml that holds the user group service and the role server).
>>
>> In order for us to get back to an unlock state, I had to redeploy our
>> GeoFence and security settings including the users.xml and roles.xml. I'm
>> not sure what is in the set that causes the geoserver to unlock because we
>> didn't trace it down that far.
>> Then we went ahead and changed our config.xml for our user group and
>> roles has (two config files):
>> <checkInterval>0</checkInterval>
>> <validating>false</validating>
>>
>> We weren't sure about validating, but we turned it off anyways. After
>> that and a restart, we were able to run our script to add the users without
>> any problems. I will add that in our script we added a second delay after
>> each add. I noticed in the original time we did our script we ran into a
>> stack overflow issue.
>>
>> After all this I think we are concluding that there might have been a
>> lock on the file resource when reading and writing. However, this is just a
>> hunch without further testing.
>> Hopefully someone on this mailing list knows exactly what is happening.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:02 AM, Darell van der Voort <
>> darell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everybody,
>>>
>>> I'm running Geoserver 2.11.2 on Java 1.8.0_144 32 bits on Amazon Linux
>>> together with Tomcat 9. I have a very urgent problem.
>>>
>>> I have a Python script that uses the REST API to automatically create
>>> users, set read/write permissions and create workspaces. I have been using
>>> this for the last months without any problems. However today I had to
>>> create 450+ accounts and workspace so I wrote a loop to generate the
>>> accounts. This went flawless till about account 137. After that I got a
>>> access denied:
>>>
>>> HTTP 403 status Forbidden
>>> Access is denied
>>> The server understood the request but refuses to authorize it.
>>> Apache Tomcat/9.01
>>>
>>> Also when I log into the web interface using the admin account I cannot
>>> access anything. The data is however still served. This leads me to believe
>>> it is some kind of protection from Geoserver against DDoS or brute force
>>> attacks. I do not have another account with admin rights.
>>> How do I re-enable access to the Geoserver? I already tried restarting
>>> the server instance, but no luck.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Darell
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