hi Jody. Apologies if my comment came across as criticism. Certainly not
intended.  I think we all agree that geoserver is fantastic and that the
team have done an amazing job of maintaining & upgrading its capabilities.
It is sad to hear that so little was raised last year.  Maybe that fact
alone should be publicized and used to generate more revenue.  If each
organisation using geoserver donated just $20 it would soon add up to a
significant sum.
I will revisit how to make a contribution and contact other organisations
that I know are using Geoserver to do the same.
regards
mike

On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, 1:49 pm Jody Garnett, <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Mike,
>
> For a large portion of GeoServer's lifetime we had participation from
> companies backed by investors and venture capital.
>
> That is no longer the case.
>
> GeoServer asked for sponsorship last year and recieved $1000 USD from our
> community. And half of that was me personally providing an example so I
> could take screen snaps of what steps are needed.
>
> A plugin that does not receive update when we migrate from a one version
> of the spring-framework to another .. does not compile and cannot be
> included in the release.
>
> Your point about popularity is well taken - number of downloads should
> indicate that a developer is one of the users of a plugin. Or that folks
> using the plugin will be in place to support development. Folks using a
> plugin can also help test (and thus reduce ongoing maintenance effort).
>
> GeoServer has actually done an amazing job of keeping maintenance costs
> low. The project has very good QA checks and test coverage allowing us to
> keep a release cadence of one release a month.
>
> Maintenance costs for applications in 2023 are presently increasing. With
> increased expectations for prompt security patches and so on. Functionality
> such as SAML that is not along for the ride falls away.
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 1:19 PM Mike Bundock <m...@augview.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> surely there must be a better reason for dropping the plugin, other than
>> it did not get updated for a while.  Did it actually need an update?  If
>> plugin download numbers are logged and no-one had actually been using it
>> then I would understand.
>> regards
>> Mike
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 at 08:08, Alexandre Gacon <alexandre.ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> The saml plugin is a community plugin so it relies only on the good
>>> willingness of the community and not on the maintainers of GeoServer. It
>>> didn't receive update for a long time: that's why it has been archived for
>>> now.
>>>
>>> If you are ready to step in as a maintainer, it is possible to restore
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>> Le mer. 20 déc. 2023 à 19:34, Parmentier, Mary <
>>> mary.parment...@softtechconsulting.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are trying to implement MFA by using OKTA to authenticate users. We
>>>> started to explore the SAML plug-in for this but it is not included in the
>>>> 2.24 release. We are hesitant to use the SAML plug-in if it will stop
>>>> working with future upgrades.  Has anyone successfully integrated Geoserver
>>>> with Okta? I would love to hear how you did it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mitzi Parmentier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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