Cool. If you could report on where they are extensively used that would be helpful too. It is official GeoTools policy to use the logger, so any use of the System stuff is very bad. If you come up with a list I'll try to spend some spare cycles on removing them as well...

thanks,

Chris

John Grange wrote:
I'll see what I can do on my spare cycles....

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Hi John,

It might take a while for the module maintainers to get around to changing the system outs to proper logging. I'm sure if you submitted the changed files to one of us with commit access, they could be rolled in easily and in a timely manner. Just at the current time there is heavy development going on with the complex feature model and I don't think many of the developers have any spare cycles to make the changes.

I thought the amount of system outs was much smaller and mostly isolated in test cases, and as such not something to worry about. But 200 is getting up there and they should be rolled into the logging system.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Brent Owens
(The Open Planning Project)



John Grange wrote:

Hi,

I'm in the process of working on a J2EE project that is using geotools quite extensively. Geotools is great, but there appears to be a somewhat irritating use of System.out.print* and System.err.print* peppered throughout the code (207 and 43 occurrences respectively in the 2.2.trunk tree).

Surely, it is better to use only one logging mechanism as this can be effectively re-directed and controlled (to be fair, there are 2602 references to this in the source tree). The use of System.* completely messes up my stdout logs & causes a huge amount of unneccessary logfiles in a production system.

I would go through and alter the relevant statements, but they are peppered widely throughout the source and I do not have write access to the svn repository. I would suggest that module maintainers do this as part of the release process.

FYI, the searches I carried out are:

grep -r System.out * | grep -v test | grep -v "//" | grep -v ".svn" | grep -v spike | grep -v scripts | grep -v javadoc | grep -v demo | wc -l

grep -r System.err * | grep -v test | grep -v "//" | grep -v ".svn" | grep -v spike | grep -v scripts | wc -l

grep -r LOGGER * | grep -v Logger.getLogger
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