Heads up x2

You are probably not going to get a geoserver branch; everyone is doing 
everything they can to slow down and work together (a branch runs counter to 
that - it allows you to move quickly but alone).

Justin perhaps it would be good if you outlined the conditions under which you 
would allow a branch to proceed? I am thinking three weeks max; specific RnD 
goal; and a plan to bring the work home (even if the work is just a report).

I am sure GeoTools would love having you whip "trunk" into shape but please 
keep the GeoServer codebase in mind as well.

On a related note Rob I would like to bounce a class diagram off you on what 
you think the configuration needs of a "real" GeoServer is (from your email I 
understand that includes XSD files provided by the end user; I can surmise 
that it include a declaritive "application profile" (saying if things like if 
the GetInfo opperation is turned on or not; and that is where I start to slow 
down - on your branch in the past there was a "mapping" step that I would like 
to hear you talk about ... don't worry about it making detailed sense I just 
need to hear what kind of language you use as I am trying to understand the 
problem).

Cheers,
Jody

> Jody Garnett wrote:
> > Right - I understand what you are doing. But what we really want is
> > you to update "the 1000 bugs" caused when the geotools codebase
> > switches to FeatureTypeBuilder and FeatureBuilder.
> >
> > We need you to do this work (or organize a work party of volunteers to
> > get it done). Basically put it in your plan, we need some help on the
> > leadership side here Gabriel - and you are point man for Feature right
> > now.
> >
> Heads up:
> 
> Once I have the ability to propagate real features through a geoserver
> branch I'll be testing this extensively across a range of backend data
> stores and Feature Types. I'll be focussed on WFS:GetFeature and
> WMS:GetMap and WMS:GetFeatureInfo, but will also be peripherally testing
> the getCapabilities calls.
> 
> I'll probably have a look at DescribeFeatureType, but have significant
> doubts about its usefulness - to I think it shuld simply redirect to the
> authoritative schema for nearly all real world cases where the client
> doesnt already know the feature. There is a case however for it to
> produce an arbitrary 'flattened' convenience view of the schema derivation.
> 
> Anyway, last time I probably fixed most of the bugs on the Oracle list,
> on the complex-features branch but had no time to consider porting them
> back to the old geotools versions to make them available, and especially
> to set up tets cases outside the specific community schemas I am asked
> to support. Anyway, I'm confident that with trunk-on-trunk we can get a
> lot of useful testing and bug fixing happening once community-schema
> module can be used.
> 
> Rob A
> > Cheers,
> > Jody
> >
> >> On Monday 12 February 2007 21:40, Jody Garnett wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Gabriel; I have watched your todo list take place on the wiki ...
> >>> can
> >>> you fill us all in on your plan? We can even start with your ideas from
> >>> todays meeting (I am sorry I had to shut you down so hard we had an
> >>> agenda to keep - and you were told a month ago you could not proceed
> >>> along those lines).
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi, yes I need to update the progress and plan on the wiki. Some
> >> things were arising during the actual work, others can be planned.
> >> Basically what there is already on unsupported is the FM ported and
> >> passing all the tests as they were on the fm branch. I'm also porting
> >> the complex-datastore, which is passing the tests using a memory
> >> datastore. To finish poring it I still need to fix the mappings
> >> configuration reader.
> >>
> >> So, the thing regarding DataAccess, and I need this to be really
> >> clear, is that I'm not proposing switching to it or forcing anything.
> >> It is true that I was told not to go that way, but it is also true
> >> that for this run it is impossible to make the "API injection", aka
> >> making old extend new, since that would be the hugest API shift in
> >> the geotools history. It is also true that for stressing the new FM
> >> with real world complex FeatureTypes I need a way to query and read
> >> data (ISO Features), which DataStore is not up to the business, right
> >> now.
> >> So I (temporally) took the FeatureAccess idea since it plays well in
> >> providing out of the box support for stuff like getCount(Query) and
> >> getBounds(Query) and as an extension of DataStore gives me a place
> >> where to train with Source.access(Filter) and the like.
> >> That is to say, DataAccess might well be killed at any time you want,
> >> I don't care, it is not my fight to impose a new data access api.
> >> Moreover, once Justin or whomever make GTFeature extend ISOFeature,
> >> DataStore may keep serving as well as it did until now.
> >> In conclusion: what I'm doing is making FM work in an unsupported
> >> space, with the perfectly set limitations of not breaking anything in
> >> supported land, and that's why I need also an unsupported data access
> >> method, which I'm glad to switch over to the supported data access
> >> api once it is feasible.
> >>
> >>
> >>> So rather then be a brute let me know how you can use help (with
> >>> planning *only* I have no coding cycles to spend on this right now).
> >>>
> >>
> >> You already gave me a lot of help with the filter work, thanks to
> >> that I am being able of working with ISO Feature at all.
> >>
> >> In the next days I am going to propose a way (pure implementation
> >> details) to enable Filter handle namespaces.
> >>
> >> More than that, thanks for keeping in sync, I guess the floor is mine
> >> and have to update the status of the project.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Gabriel
> >>
> >>> Jody
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 





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