GeoTools / GeoServer Meeting 2016-03-08
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Attending
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Ben Caradoc-Davies
Kevin Smith
Jody Garnett
Jukka Rahkonen
Andrea Aime

Apologies
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Brad Hards
Ian Turton

Agenda
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- Release delay for Spring 4 upgrade
- Spring 4 upgrade progress
- GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules from majority to three positive votes
- Discussion

Actions
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* (done) Jody: cut and paste release delay discussion into GSIP 
(https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-142)
* (done) Andrea: update release schedule
* Andrea: check if there is interest in a 2.7.7
* Jody: announce geotools 15-beta
* Ben: to update GSIP 141 to incorporate proposed improvements
* Andrea: proposal to update GeoTools so that they have the same

Actions from last meeting
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- Ben: review/propose a change to GSIP voting rules [DONE: GSIP-141]

Release delay for Spring 4 upgrade
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Update the release schedule?
GSIP for the delay? It has been voted on the list already, just a matter 
of paperwork really.

* https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade

This "motion" had 100% approval from PSC - thanks for the rapid response.

Update release schedule:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Release-Schedule

Q: do we want another 2.7.x maintenance release?
A: if there is interest

Commits on 2.7.x shows six references to tickets.

Reports of missing JTS jars for 15-beta and 14.x releases might need to 
be checked on 13.x as well:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Can-something-be-done-about-missing-jt-jars-in-bin-distro-of-15-beta-Also-td5255148.html

- Next release will be 2.9, followed by 2.10
- What would be worth a GeoServer 3.0?: UI/catalog/API breaking changes

Spring 4 upgrade progress
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See devel mailing list

GSIP 141 - Change GSIP voting rules from majority to three positive votes
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- Ben to update GSIP 141 to incorporate proposed improvements.
   https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-141
 
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GSIP-141-Change-GSIP-voting-rules-from-majority-to-three-positive-votes-td5255144.html

- This is the same communicate-first as earlier discussion:
   https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Pull-request-review-guide

GeoServer Discussion:

- PSC responsible for maintaining core and need some way of regulating 
content.
- Ignored proposals should not be accepted.
- Pull requests abandoned by proposers are also a problem.
- Huge pull requests before discussion are an additional problem.
- Problem of late discovery of API change needed for huge pull request.
- How about a percentage of the PSC? 30% of +1 votes: ceil(0.3*size(psc))
- Jody has horrific alternative from OSGeo board
- Stagnation problem
- Support for PSC member requiring additional one week delay
- With GitHub, commit access is no longer as important.

GeoTools Discussion:
- 3 day for svn access :) --> ask for a feature branch on the central 
github.
- 10 days and your are approved --> do we switch to quorum? no quorum, 
no party.
   Jody is hesitant on switching to "30% positives/50% quorum/no -1" as 
GeoTools PMC is less responsive. Quorum is taken as 100% active as PMC 
members are automagically retired :D

   For a serious formula, see here: http://mathb.in/53467 or 
http://mathb.in/53468

Discussion
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- The release model was discussed, including long term releases, and 
some users complaining about the maintenance branch changing too quickly.
- Funding models
- The distribution of donations for Linux Mint: many small donations
- PSC is a subcommittee of OSGeo and is responsible for making 
expenditure decisions


-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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