On Jan 4, 2007, at 21:44, Jeremy Irish wrote:

Don't they have a separate Google web site for China? The Google.com site doesn't censor the data - China merely blocks access to Google.com but allows the Chinese version to work within the mainland. I don't know if Google Earth is blocked in China but it's certainly possible.

From experience with geocachers traveling to other countries it can be a problem with carrying and marking locations at the physical location - not necessarily when it comes to satellite imagery. You can get arrested in many countries for marking coordinates around sensitive locations. You will get harrassed by police here and arrested if you mark coordinates around military bases, for example.

Anyone see the Federal Cave Protection act? I'm not very good at interpreting the law but it seems like there is information censorship in the US as well.
http://www.karst.org/fedlaw.htm

The difference is that in this Cave Protection Act, the act of searching for, and publishing the location of caves by non-government people is not illegal. It's only illegal for the government to tell you where the caves are. There might be other laws that prevent you from prowling around looking for the caves, but if you had information, you could publish it.

My understanding of the Chinese situation is that it covers data collection and publishing by non-Chinese. It would seem to prohibit activities such as Green Maps unless done by Chinese with permits. There are already several Chinese Green Maps here - http:// www.greenmap.com/grmaps/asia.html

There seems to have been a similar law as the ones mentioned in Mike's original post, dating back to 2002. This makes for some interesting reading - http://english.gov.cn/laws/2005-10/09/ content_75314.htm

It starts out quite benignly, and even goes so far as to say surveying and mapping are essential activities and well done tasks are to be rewarded. It even basically says that taxpayer funded data should be made available gratis. Then it gets a bit darker when you get to the penalties for various wrongdoings (one of which is to use a non-Chinese coordinate system).

        Allan


Jeremy

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Bill Kearney wrote:
Quick, everyone go grab snapshots of google earth's pictures of all
their nuclear, military and other "secure" locations.  Don't forget
water reservoirs, oil refineries and transportation centers.

I think that raises an interesting question: even if other countries wouldn't enforce the law, will Google remove the data from Google Earth in order to keep playing nice with the Chinese government? They already censor search results, so I would think that censoring geographic data would be a natural extension of that. I have no idea what they'll do, but I'd be willing to bet that they won't tell anybody about the changes if they do happen.

regards,
-dp-
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