I'm working on Fire Eagle too, and—as rabble says—it's designed to help people capture their location and share it with whatever applications they want. I think our core priority is going to be to get that stuff right initially, but I don't see any reason why (if the initial platform was a success) we couldn't make it so that a user could create other objects to be tracked in the future. We're definitely not quite there yet though.

Since it's come up though, I'm really interested in what you guys would want from a platform like Fire Eagle and how many of you would be interested in building against it? More particularly I'm interested in what would *stop* you using it? Not promising we'll be able to meet everyone's concerns, but we'd certainly do our best...

On 17 Oct 2007, at 08:21, evan wrote:

I'm working on FireEagle... It's meant to track people. There is some
debate about whether or not it should track 'things' as well. If each
'thing' had a yahoo account then you could do it. :)

Fire Eagle is a platform for letting applications track things. You'd
need to build posting and display on top of it. We broke tracking of
lat long info (from gps devices) so we could handle a lot of updates,
we'll see how many as we start testing the system.

We are very interested in getting geowankers on to the alpha version
as soon as it's ready. Unfortunately it's not ready yet.

-rabble

On 10/15/07, Andrew Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I doubt FireEagle was designed with "tracking" in mind. i.e. high- rate updates
 - however, it is just a platform, so will be interesting to see what
people do with it. But in this way, it is *just* a platform, not a
full application stack

And not benchmarkable yet either - as Dennis asked.

There was a great presentation on vehicle tracking company in Latin
America at FOSS4G:
http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations/view.php?abstract_id=83

I did a one-up for a non-profit in NYC: http://mapthevan.org/

Fleet tracking is, almost by definition, a private activity. So it
probably will be difficult to find good use-cases.

On 10/15/07, Dennis Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://fireeagle.research.yahoo.com/ may do this...

ps: anyone have any idea when this is coming out of alpha? (right now it's
closed beta and I've heard from many friends who want to play too!)



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On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:34 PM, Anselm Hook wrote:
http://fireeagle.research.yahoo.com/ may do this...

 - a

On 10/15/07, Mike Liebhold < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Dave,

Aside from fleet management applications which you already know about ,
the only other 'popular' systems, I've heard of are surveillant and proprietary like OnStar, stolen vehicle tracking e.g. loJack, telcos' child trackers and friend finder services, military war fighting and
intelligence gathering.

Because location API's on mobile phones  and cars are locked by the
carriers and car companies, there are no 'popular and open' tracking aps on the web that I know about. And I doubt that the military and intelligence
guys publish specs of their 'service' architectures.

Just curious, what kind of apps are you investigating?

Mike Liebhold



Dave Rafkind wrote:

Hello list! Does anyone know what the most popular systems are for
server-based real time tracking? For instance, many fleet management
applications expose a web interface to a datacenter that collects tracked GPS messages. What software would the datacenter probably use to do this?

Thanks,
Dave
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