I am also very sad to hear about big bob :-(

>>> karin van veen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15/02/00 09:43:14 >>>
At 08:30 PM 2/14/00 +0100, Mario van Ginneken wrote:

I'm sorry to hear about Big Bob!
>
>Last sunday, Big Bob looked very ill all of a sudden. He layed in an odd
corner of his cage and was not moving at all. He was also breathing very
fast. I picked him up and he felt stone cold! All day I kept him by me,
trying to feed him, keep him warm and stuff. I don't know what was wrong
with him, but he did not stop breathing fast and I also heard little
clicking sounds when he did. When he moved, he wobbled like he was drunk.
>
The fast breathing and clicking sound point to a pneumonia (longontsteking
in Dutch).
Why he could have caught that? Obviously his immune system got weak somehow.

>That night, I wanted to put him in a smaller box, to prevent him from
staying in a colder corner of his big cage that night, but when I put him in
the box, it looked like he freaked out: he started running around, fell in
his waterbowl, ran some more and after a minute or so (I was trying to put
him back in his cage by then) he fell to his side, breathing very heavily,
and finally stopt breathing. It looked like he felt he was going and was
fighting it.
>
Sounds like a severe epileptic attack, but it might very well be a stroke.
Must have been terrible to watch!

My guess is that he got a stroke, and was weakened by that, got a pnuemonia
on top of that, which he sadly didn't survive.

Karin.

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