The stuffing of my seat is not fibrous but in a material like sponge. I
have lost a dog when I was young: he had robbed a sponge in the kitchen,
eaten it, drank more and more and he is dead. I think it is possible to save
an animal in such condition by privation of water for  or 2 days (depending
of the type of animal). The inflation of the sponge will be less and it will
be eliminated naturally.
        The sponge was a system to kill dogs and foxes: you put a sponge in blood
and when it's dry, you drop this to the animal. This is just an information
on a cruel (and illegal in my country) method, please, DO NOT TRY!!!
        I know the problem of fluff, and my gerbils have just hay. Badly, the fluff
is currently sold in pets shops.

Deb, I forward you trap plans by private email.
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> de Deb Rebel
> Envoy� : mardi 26 septembre 2000 22:29
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> Objet : Re: ANOTHER new gerb
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> >        I have had the same adventure with an hamster. He was IN the seat
> of my
> >car: about 36 hours to catch him with a trap. But I have lost him after 2
> >days. I think he had eaten the material of the seat, and this
> material has
> >inflated when the hamster has drink.
>
> No, the stuffing of the seat was fibrous, and caused a fatal intestinal
> blockage.
>
> This is the reason why it is BAD to give a hamster or gerbil 'fluffy
> bedding' --the stuff that looks like polyfill or cotton balls, or those
> compressed bedding blocks.
>
> The fibers wrap around legs and cause amputation, wrap around
> necks and strangulate, and if ingested, cause a fatal intestinal blockage
> within two days.
>
> Some claim they give their animals and such and have had no
> problems...but it is inevitable, that eventually the animal's luck
> runs out and it runs afoul of the fibers.
>
> I'm sorry you lost your little one by such circumstances.
>
> I have also had 'gnaw outs' and once spent an hour in a compact
> car with a flashlight after 10 pm and the rain catching a 4 week old
> syrian hamster.  He had not ingested anything however, just some
> cardboard from the box, and was fine once I found him.  I ended up
> having to unscrew the passenger front bucket seat from the rails
> so I could get up in the underside of the seat to get him....
>
> >        The box in carton is not ideal for the transport of such
> animals. I
> have
> >seen a breeder who gives hamsters in a jar in glass with metallic lid
> >perforated for the air. It seems not a bad idea.
>
> I suggest that one buy a small plastic 'kritter keeper', the tiniest size
> is fine as it's about the size of a transport cardboard box, and keep
> that in the car.  Take the tags off and marker your last name on it
> somewhere on the outside.  Then if you do visit a petstore, take the
> carrier in with you.  Also take a handful of the bedding from the cage
> when you get the animal, it gives them something to do on the way
> home....or pre-fill your carrier with some shreds of unscented undyed
> toilet tissue.  This is usually preferable.
>
> I have never had an escapee since I started putting about four
> of these in the car and leaving them there, prepared for transport.
>
> It also gives me something safe to transport them to their quarrantine
> and set up their cage first (if it was an impulse buy).
>
> Gerbils, I prefer to use the next size up from the tiniest
> 'Kritter Keeper'
> you can get.  I keep two of those in the car too.  Gerbils especially,
> I have had gnaw their way out, nothing like driving heavy traffic with
> one hand and the other trying to keep a gerbil in until you get there,
> who has opened several fronts on the transport box!
>
> >My trap is very human and easy to home-build, but I am not capable to
> >explain it. If it's permitted in this list and if you want, I can join a
> >scheme to a next mail.
> >
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> Please, forward me a copy of your trap plans.
> I understand some french, so it might be easier for you
> *in private email*
>
> Deb
> Rebel's Rodent Ranch
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