I actually was thinking more in terms of verification as a seperate step from actual deployment.
Weston On Monday 11 August 2003 01:23 pm, Chris Opacki wrote: > The deployment spec has defined the deployment manager > responsibilities and the tool's responsibilities > fairly well. It definitely requires in depth knowledge > of the separate deployable objects. > > --- "Weston M. Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a modular component I think this J2EE verifier > > engine/processor would be > > very useful in a number of projects; it could even > > be a standalone module > > that would allow a developer to validate their > > archive before ever even > > trying to deploy it in a target environment. Of > > course, you wouldn't be able > > to see those 100+ line stack traces roll across your > > tty when you go to > > deploy your archive; that would be the one > > drawback.... > > > > Regards, > > > > Weston > > > > On Monday 11 August 2003 08:26 am, Weston M. Price > > > > wrote: > > > Yeah, I knew that term was going to come back at > > > > me, poor choice of words > > > > > on my part. I was basically thinking in terms of > > > > "rules" as conditions that > > > > > need to be satisfied to fulfill a deployment; not > > > > in terms of a full blown > > > > > rules engine (though this would be somewhat > > > > interesting). At the very core > > > > > what you really have is a set of conditions that > > > > when applied to a > > > > > deployable unit (EAR, WAR, SAR etc) must be met > > > > for the archive to be > > > > > deployed. A verifier exists as sort of a watchdog > > > > that prevents archives > > > > > from violating a discreet set of constraints. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Weston > > > > > > On Monday 11 August 2003 12:36 pm, Srihari S > > > > wrote: > > > > i did not have this rule engine picture when i > > > > started thinking abt this > > > > > > verifier.. > > > > ru looking at the design of some open src rule > > > > engines for designing this > > > > > > verifier? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Weston M. Price > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:12 PM > > > > To: Srihari S; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: J2EE deployment verifier > > > > > > > > > > > > It's an interesting subject for a few reasons: > > > > What we are really talking about is a type of > > > > rules engine where certain > > > > > > conditions have to be met to achieve a > > > > successful "deployment". The most > > > > > > intriguing aspect, at least to me, would be to > > > > make this module > > > > > > extensible and "forward looking" because we all > > > > know that specifications > > > > > > are static and never change right? :-) As > > > > Geronimo grows with J2EE (and > > > > > > all its associated specifications) the engine > > > > would similarly have to > > > > > > grow as well and accommodate the new standards. > > > > This could make for some > > > > > > interesting design and implementation decisions. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Weston > > > > > > > > Of course we all know that specification > > > > requirements never change right > > > > > > On Monday 11 August 2003 10:54 am, Srihari S > > > > wrote: > > > > > I agree with you Weston..this is a good > > > > staarting point to gain > > > > > > familiarity > > > > > > > > > with the specs > > > > > Count me in too.:)) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Weston M. Price > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:01 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: J2EE deployment verifier > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this would actually be quite > > > > interesting to work on. Man, if > > > > > > > there is > > > > > a way to become familiar with the J2EE > > > > specs....this is it! > > > > > > > If you wanted someone to work with on this I > > > > would be happy to help. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Weston > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 11 August 2003 05:03 am, Denes > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm intending to begin writing something for > > > > the deployment verifier, > > > > > > > > both to learn more about the specs and > > > > (hopefully) help with the > > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some questions: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Is there anybody working on this issue? > > > > > > 2. Will this be based on openEJB's > > > > deployment verifier? > > > > > > > > 3. Something that I never understood. As I > > > > don't have commit > > > > > > > > permission on cvs, to whom I should send > > > > patches/codes that I create? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Denes > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
