dinkypumpkin <dinkypump...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 05/07/2013 15:01, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: >> These almost all worked. The install of >> >> Net::SMTP::TLS::ButMaintained >> >> failed because during the test phase of its install it couldn't find a >> random number generator. I did follow a suggestion to install something >> called 'egd' - an Entropy Gathering Daemon - but that also failed during >> its tests. > >No idea. Do you have the same distribution of Strawberry Perl used for >the installer (5.16.2.1)?
No; it's 5.14.something. I think I'm going to have a rethink. As a newbie to Perl I thought that PADRE with Perl seemed like a good idea; I found out about that on http://www.perl.org/get.html where apart from Strawberry Perl, DWIMPerl (which packages Strawberry Perl) was recommended because it came with PADRE - it's just my bad luck that the Perl in it isn't recent. It's ironic that I allowed myself to be tempted by a bundle of an IDE with a version of Perl, when I'd just decided I didn't want the 'easy' install of get_iplayer with a Perl bundled inside that! So I'll uninstall all of that and go back to a standalone Strawberry Perl, and get 5.16.2.1 - which is not the current stable one, but I guess it's better that I use the same version as you develop with. TBH I'm not sure I /need/ an IDE - I've got a perfectly good programmer's text editor anyway. I'd assumed that an IDE would be handy for GUI-based debugging, but I guess that can wait. Whatever I do I'll then pick an IDE, if I need one, that's installed separately from perl itself. > > If it comes to that, I don't understand why get_iplayer would need > > the ability to do SMTP at all - unless this module is required by some > > other module that does something more obviously necessary? > >If you don't want to use get_iplayer's email functions, then don't >install the modules. Ah, good. > > Before deciding to ask here, I looked at all of the installer stuff in > > the get_iplayer tarball, including the nsi config files, batch files > > etc. So far as I can see if I were to use the pre-built windows > > installer, all that would actually do perl-wise is unpack on my system a > > copy of perl, modules etc that had been packaged up on the developer's > > system. That doesn't help me to understand how a developer with a > > Windows system would themselves manage to install the > > Net::SMTP::TLS::ButMaintained module. > >The installer scripts are irrelevant to how you do your own DIY >installation. Well it turns out they are, but for all I knew there might have been a step in them that installed a base level of Strawberry Perl and then installed specific extra modules - that's why I looked at them in such detail. > The installer can only be built from a full working Strawberry Perl > installation with the optional modules for get_iplayer installed from CPAN > just like normal, so there is no need to know how the installer is built. > CPAN and Windows don't always make a happy marriage, but it can be done. > All I can tell you is that all the modules install just fine with > Strawberry Perl 5.16.2.1. There would be no installer otherwise. And those extra modules are normally installed by cpan/cpanm without telling it to bypass tests? Maybe SP 5.16.2.1 (or earlier, but more recent than 5.14.x) has a dll or something that provides random number support for those parts of Windows perl that can't use the /dev/random that unixy systems seem to need - for which EGD was some sort of workaround. > > I also note that the list of modules mentioned on the help webpage is > > somewhat different from those mentioned, first in INSTALLER.md, which > > says > >INSTALLER.md has been updated but not committed to Git repo. The latest >installer is still getting a shakedown, so I won't commit changes until >final. I would ignore that document, anyway. All you need to know is >what modules to install, and you can get that from the installation page >in the GitHub wiki. Well that is where I found the reference to the module that wouldn't install... Thanks for your help. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. _______________________________________________ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
