Frankie Higgs <frankiehi...@gmail.com> writes: > On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 16:09 +0100, Jonathan H wrote: >> So, let me try and get this clear in my head... >> >> Have you really just compared the deaths of millions of young men who >> sacrificed their lives in two world wars, to the voluntary closure of >> a site hosting stolen material? > > Don't pretend to be surprised by someone's saying "My ancestors didn't > fight in WWn for this," > It's a very common piece of rhetoric, and in this case isn't entirely > inappropriate. > > If, as many do, Chris views the second world war as having been fought > to defend us from fascist values, then he is correct in arguing that > they were fought to prevent this sort of close down. > > One important democratic freedom is the freedom to share culture and > information. The introduction of copyright to the UK was intended to > allow for easier censorship, and to prevent free culture. I'd recommend > reading http://ip.cream.org for the background. > > What does genuinely continue to surprise me is that people continue to > compare copyright violation to theft. > I'm not even sure if we have the legal right to use iPlayer content in a > way the BBC don't explicitly allow, despite obviously having the moral > right, so I don't view what we use get_iplayer for as any different from > downloading these files from a P2P site. > (If there's anyone on the list who can explain our exact legal status, > I'd be grateful) > I'm the writer of 'beeb', a script to help get programmes using get-iplayer, available at my website.
This is a quote from the "beeb manual", page 17, which explains the legal situation using information from the TV-licensings own web site. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- You do not need a UK TV licence to use ”get-iplayer” or ”beeb”. You only need a TV licence if you are recording TV programmes as they are being shown on TV. This is from the TV licensing website - ”The law states that you need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes, on any device, as they’re being shown on TV. This includes TVs, computers, mobile phones, games consoles, digital boxes and Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorders. You don’t need a licence if you don’t use any of these devices to watch or record television pro- grammes as they’re being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch catch up services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.” Source - http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/ how-to-tell-us-you-dont-watch-tv-top12 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I hope this helps Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.92.1
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