Joe,

Microsoft Word (again, this works for Windows; I can't say whether it will work on a Mac) will not only load in the .doc file _as styled text_, but also does not object your doing a File -> Save, _even though_ it is keeping up the charade by saving the file as a file with the .doc filename extension but saving the file in RTF format!


Oi -- how ghastly!


If you think that's ghastly, I don't know what you are going to think when I tell some interesting things about Microsoft WordPad related to Word format (.doc) files and Rich Text Format (.rtf) files.

Everyone knows that the "default file type", for Microsoft WordPad both for Opening and for Saving files is RTF, right? After all, that's what it says (or seems to say) in the Wikipedia:

"WordPad is a simple word processor coming with almost all versions of Microsoft Windows from Windows 95 upwards. It is more advanced than Notepad, but not as advanced as Microsoft Word.... WordPad supports Rich Text Format. This file format is the default format used by the editor to store and load files. It also supports "Word for Windows 6.0", which is forward compatible with Microsoft Word format."
 --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPad

Note that (according to the Wikipedia) although WordPad can Open (and read) Microsoft Word (.doc) files, for WordPad "Rich Text Format [RTF] ... is the default format used ... to store and load files. So far nothing unexpected or surprising.

But if that is true, then how do you explain such statements as the following?::

"As you probably know, the default file type for a document created with WordPad is Word for Windows 6.0 with its .doc file extension. This means that every time you create a document in WordPad and then save it, unless you specify a different file type in the Save As Type text box, WordPad will automatically append the .doc extension and save it as a Word document."
 --http://www.elijournals.com/premier/showArticle.asp?aid=4349

"In WordPad the default file type is (.doc)._
--http://www.coease.com/openadvancedentry/openadvanced/6-datamanagement.html

"Wordpad's" default file type is ( .doc )...."
 --http://www.cobbusa.com/advanced/todesign.htm

"By default, WordPad opens files that use the Microsoft Word version 6.0 format...."
 --http://www.perkinscomm.com/newbie/convfile.htm
*
*"WordPad ... can open and save documents in Microsoft Word format (but only Word 6 and Word 7)...."
 --http://aroundcny.com/Technofile/texts/bkwordpad97.html

**Two things:

(1) I won't keep you in suspense as to how to resolve this discrepancy. In Windows XP, WordPad (Microsoft's showcase RTF word processor) does indeed use RTF as its "default file type." But that was not true of Microsoft WordPad in Windows 95/98, which used Microsoft Word "doc" files as its "default file type." (Thus if there's confusion between .rtf files and .doc files, you can blame Microsoft!)

Wikipedia substantiates what I'm saying:

"WordPad was introduced for the first time in Windows 95, replacing the Windows Write application, which came bundled with all previous versions of Windows (version 3.1 and earlier).... WordPad for Windows XP cannot save files in the .DOC format(only TXT or RTF), unlike WordPad for Windows '98."
 --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPad

(2) My guess (and it's only a guess) is that Microsoft wanted to force people to purchase Microsoft Word in order to create Microsoft Word (.doc) files and that is why they removed the capability of saving files in Word .doc format from WordPad (although WordPad is still able to Open and read Microsoft Word .doc files). But what I find interesting is that what Microsoft removed was earlier not just a feature, but a default!

So your statement that because Microsoft supports something now doesn't mean that it will necessarily be supported in the future is justified. I'll fully grant you that. But that's true of almost anything. (For example, because of changes in REALbasic's XML format after RB 5.5.x, some of the routines I wrote earlier no longer work, but I'm afraid that "comes with the territory.")

BTW, I hope you'll forgive me for perhaps having some fun at your expense. Since you are so rarely wrong on anything, I couldn't resist taking advantage of the opportunity opened up to me to point out that what you said wasn't really true. Microsoft Word did none of the things you said it would do. <grin>
Warm regards,

Barry

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