I'd like the haskell platform to include all of LTS haskell. That includes a very broad set of packages so you don't need to install many other packages even as an advanced user.
Maybe there could also be a nightly release which includes stackage instead? It would save a lot of time even for experienced users, since they get stackage precompiled. However, such a distribution should be designed such that cabal install just works, so it should probably be based on winghc on Windows. The only problem I can see with this is the size of such a package, not sure if it would be acceptable? Neil Mitchell <ndmitch...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 22. Mär. 2015 10:18: > On Windows, the reason I used to use the Platform was that it came > with an installed network library, and installing the network library > on Windows is a real pain (and often fails). Unfortunately it was > incredibly brittle, a single attempt at upgrading network from some > newer package usually trashed my Haskell install and required a wipe > and restart. > > Nowadays I use https://github.com/fpco/minghc which can actually > install network, and I've had zero problems. I can get up to the > platform with one invoke of cabal, and if someone decides to require a > new network, it just works. > > I think the Platform now gives a worse user experience on Windows, so > the ideas (or names) probably need migrating around. > > Thanks, Neil > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Heinrich Apfelmus > <apfel...@quantentunnel.de> wrote: > > Mark Lentczner wrote: > >> > >> I'm wondering how we are all feeling about the platform these days.... > >> > >> I notice that in the new Haskell pages, the Platform is definitely not > the > >> recommended way to go: The main download pages suggests the compiler and > >> base libraries as the first option - and the text for the Platform > (second > >> option) pretty much steers folks away from it. Of the per-OS download > >> pages, only the Windows version even mentions it. > >> > >> Does this mean that we don't want to consider continuing with it? It is > a > >> lot of community effort to put out a Platform release - we shouldn't do > it > >> if we don't really want it. > >> > >> That said, I note that the other ways to "officially get" Haskell look, > to > >> my eye, very ad hoc. Many of the options involve multiple steps, and > >> exactly what one is getting isn't clear. It hardly looks like there is > now > >> an "official, correct" way to setup Haskell. > >> > >> The Platform arose in an era before sandboxes and before curated library > >> sets like Stackage and LTS. Last time we set direction was several years > >> ago. These new features and development have clearly changed the > landscape > >> for use to reconsider what to do. > >> > >> > >> I don't think the status quo for the Platform is now viable - mostly as > >> evidenced by waning interest in maintaining it. I offer several ways we > >> could proceed: > >> > >> *1) Abandon the Platform.* GHC is release in source and binary form. > Other > >> package various installers, with more or less things, for various OSes. > >> > >> *2) Slim the Platform.* Pare it back to GHC + base + a smaller set of > >> "essential" libs + tools. Keeps a consistent build layout and > installation > >> mechanism for Haskell. > >> > >> *3) Re-conceive the Platform.* Take a very minimal install approach, > >> coupled with close integration with a curated library set that makes it > >> easy to have a rich canonical, stable environment. This was the core > idea > >> around my "GPS Haskell" thoughts from last September - but there would > be > >> much to work out in this direction. > >> > >> Thoughts? > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your hard work on the platform! > > > > I myself am an avid user of the platform (OS X), because for me, it's the > > easiest way to install Haskell on a new machine; I just did so the other > > day. > > > > The only time when the platform seems to be a handicap is when a new > version > > of GHC is being released and I would have to update my packages. > Usually, I > > don't test them with the new version and rely on pull requests instead. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Heinrich Apfelmus > > > > -- > > http://apfelmus.nfshost.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Libraries mailing list > > librar...@haskell.org > > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/libraries > _______________________________________________ > Libraries mailing list > librar...@haskell.org > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/libraries >
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